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Airflow wedging, base plate and bushing setups

 
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lone_deranger



Joined: 05 Oct 2008
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Location: Oxford, U.K.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:52 am    Post subject: Airflow wedging, base plate and bushing setups Reply with quote

I've managed to find an Airflow 129 which I'd like to set up as a rear truck on my girlfriend's Pulse which is currently being built by Scott Very Happy
It came mounted on a Tracker RTX base plate. I remember reading that an Orion base plate is also compatible. What else works and what do you guys use?
I see that it sits lower than a Bennett. I plan to mount the Bennett on a Khiro angled riser and either a 10* or 15* rail riser to wedge the truck to 17* to 22*.
Do you guys have any recommendations as to how much to dewedge an Airflow and balance out the ride height? Guess this would also depend on the base plate.
Finally what bushing setup do you guys use? Please could you also let me know your weight. I have various Khiro barrels knocking about as well as Venom Eliminators.
Any help or feedback would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Leo
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G- Dub



Joined: 07 Oct 2009
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Location: Indianapolis, Indiana

PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure how you should wedge your Airflow. I am using a 130mm Seismic and I have it wedged 4 degrees with an 1/8th" riser. In terms of Khiro bushings I really like the Orange-white-orange combo. I weigh about 190lb. I am currently experimenting with different sized cones/barrels and placements of the orange-white-orange combo. It's crazy how much difference it makes. This is the setup I have right now:



Thats a Tall Orange Cone, a Thin White Cone, and a Thin Orange cone.

It's pumps effortlessly, but if you wanna go fast, you can go really fast. Top speed seems to be pretty good.
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lone_deranger



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Location: Oxford, U.K.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi G- Dub, thanks  for your input. I also have a Seismic 130 Stable Turn which I was using as a rear truck before moving over to Virages. I'm quite au fait with Bennett bushing setup from experimentation and from the plethora of information to be gleaned from this site.
As I am due to take a three month trip around southern Africa (I'm SA born and bred) with my girlfriend in a month's time, I would prefer to set up both our boards with bushing trucks so as to minimise carrying weight and the number of spares while still maintaining a good range of options.
Any help with Airflow setup would be great. Does anyone know what geometry Tracker RT-X and RT-S baseplates run at? Would an Airflow hanger fit an RT-S baseplate and is there any benefit to be gained? I remember reading about JP using a Randal DH baseplate with a Splitfire hanger. Would anyone know if this would work with an Airflow? I have sold off my skateware collection in preparation for the trip and as such have no means of experimentation.
Any help would be most appreciated,
Cheers,
Leo
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LDPanda



Joined: 21 Nov 2008
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Location: Seattle, WA

PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heres what i do with my airflow (on a pulse with avilas):




Its on an Orion SP-1 baseplate and dewedged about 7* with enough flat riser to bring it up to level with my bennett. Ive also used an RT-S baseplate with the same dewedging.  The pivot fits better on the SP-1 but i never had any issues with the RT-S. Airflows are NOT randal compatable as some splitfires are. There are two pivot configurations for splits, 'randal' and 'tracker.' Airflows are only 'tracker' style.

I like red and yellow khiro barrels and red venom eliminators. Im currently using 89a Abec Reflex barrels.
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JeffVyain



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Location: Indianapolis, IN

PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, having to hike that all the way up there probably makes you want to have a little lower front truck, eh? I guess you still get the added benefit of having the axle being in line with the kingpin. How much of a difference does that make to the ride? Do you think it's cost effective?
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LDPanda



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The height really comes from the bennett, im just jacking up the airflow to match. Its a little high i guess but i dont usually have to push much. Whether an offset truck is a worthwhile investment for you is a personal decision. I think its great, doesnt slide out as much, allows me to stomp on the rear harder and get more out of my pump. Not to mention airflows are damn sexy. Take a look at any pro slalom setup, every professional uses an offset rear. Airflow and split arent the only options though, there are some modded trucks that acheive the same offset geometry. Chackers and Chindys are Chicken (PPS) mods of trackers and indys that are offset. Theres also a couple tracker made offsets floating around. Some canadian company makes an offset bennett mod, though i assume thats for very tight slalom. The virage is a split axle offset, as are radikal, ett-sex-ett, and various GOGs. Basically, bringing the axle in line with the kingpin gives you better traction and responsiveness. Its up to you to decide whether its worth the money.
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JeffVyain



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, Panda. Lots of good info there. I'll probably be looking further into these soon (as I can afford them). More power is the name of my game. Lowness is the name of my other game, but I'm riding high like a jacked up Caddy on my current LBL "Comet" setup with a Bennett and a Seismic. I don't mind, but I want to enter some races with my pump board, and having the versatility to switch between pumping and pushing is a great advantage. I rode with a bunch of bikers during this fixie race the other night through the city, and switching between the two was the only way I could keep up. Any lowering of the board would ultimately make that easier, I would imagine, but I want to keep the power that I can put into the board as high as possible at the same time for pumping.
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G- Dub



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeff, you should keep your eyes peeled for a Subsonic Century 38.
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JeffVyain



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I usually like having my foot right over the front truck. I don't know that I could give up that footspace. Will be worth a try eventually. Tell you what...howabout you buy it Smile


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