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timbo666 · Joined: 30 Aug 2009 Posts: 21 Location: Coventry - England

I am struggling to decied whether to go with the v1.0 or v2.0 Pulse deck.

John Galac says that he hates any camber on the board but obviously some people like camber. It will surely help initiate and control a turn but may make the feet tired after many miles?

And, I have heard that the v2.0 runs slightly stiffer than v1.0.

egret · Joined: 18 Jun 2008 Posts: 84

Scott at Subsonic says he has a new press that combines v1 and v2. It's low camber and low concave.

I did not care for the v2 concave. It hurt my arches after a while. The v1 is plenty concave and although never having ridden it I really want the combo/v3(?). V1 is good. Scott said the v2 was not an improved version, just another option. Bottom line, personal preference trumps what anyone tells you.

egret · Joined: 18 Jun 2008 Posts: 84

Why would camber make you tired?

I think Mr. Galac is working on a cambered GTCPLDP.

LDPanda · Joined: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 418 Location: Seattle, WA

Timbo, i think you might be confusing camber and concave. The concave on the V2 is a bit extreme and might tire some people's feet. Ive put over 1,000 miles on mine though and i dont have any particular problem with it. I like the locked in feel of the deeper concave as well as the extra wheel clearance. Anyways, if you have good 'racing stance' foot position then the extra concave doesnt really affect you.

It comes down to personal preference really. If you like a lot of concave and a little camber, go for the V2. If you prefer a flatter deck, go with the V1. This is the first im hearing of a V3 but it sounds like a nice comprimise.

This is a gross generalization, but i would say the V2 is more geared towards 'cyber mile' type sprints (as it runs a bit stiffer and locks you in to a racing stance) and the V1 is more casual ( a tad flexier and more amiable to a surf stance) but i use my V2 for long distance all the time.

pavedwave · Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 1120 Location: seattle wa usa

I used to think "flat was where its at" as well. Galac will probably change his tune once he gets a camber mold done. What I know for sure is that building a cambered board definitely complicates the process, and it's costly because you get locked into a mold -- adding a little more or less camber is no trivial matter. There is nothing at all wrong with a flat deck, in fact it's still a really nice comfy feel, and a great choice for the boardwalk cruise/beer-run board. It's just that rebound and performance-wise, you will start to appreciate even more that touch of camber when the deck's had a few months of breaking in.

V1 is flat with low concave.
V2 is cambered with more concave.
V3 is cambered with lower (V1) concave.

In many ways the V3 mold will be as close to the Roe Mermaid as any other deck out there, and its what I'd consider to be the perfect qualities in an LDP deck. Since I don't even own a Pulse anymore (my first went to Sheldon, my second went to Ted) ... I can't wait to get my feet on this one!!

All that said, preference does play the biggest part. I still own my Galac and Flexdex Pro60's that are flat as it gets and have no intention of parting ways!

gboom · Joined: 29 May 2008 Posts: 57 Location: Vancouver WA

HEY! I can talk about to this. We needed a mild camber concave mold for our Illuminati platform and Scott needed one for his new decks. The new mold is a group effort between us. This mold idea came up about the same time that we started rekindling the relationship between Gbomb and Subsonic. Eric Lowell was the driver and passion behind the camber and concave on the mold. It had to be perfect; meticulous can sometimes be an understatement for Eric. I handled the CAD work for our CNC router guy and investigated spring back with Scott from previous decks he had done. We even accounted for the different spring back for the maple/birch ply decks vs the Aspen/Mahogany cores that we use.

Note that we at Gbomb are most interested in the center 28” for our decks and brackets. Scott is more concerned about the full length of the deck for his new pulse. This was a little tricky, but we came to solution where neither of us had to compromise.

Here is how we did it. This is kind of difficult to describe, let me know if it makes sense. Perhaps the pictures will help. The mold is just over 49” long and 12” wide.

Very mild radial camber on the center of the deck, just a few mm over the middle 24” (front to back). This radius then flows out into a tangent at +/-12” inches from center. This works well for us b/c the camber goes flat where our aluminum brackets attach.

Very mild radial concave that tracks along the camber path front to back.

We are thrilled with the results. A lot of effort, but we nailed it. It was one of those projects that we took the time and effort to do right, and all the pieces fell into place. Synergy is sometimes overused, but this mold satisfies both of our new needs for a mild and comfortable concave, and a board that does not have a domed or rocker feel for the camber.

Here are some cad models of it.

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timbo666 · Joined: 30 Aug 2009 Posts: 21 Location: Coventry - England