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pavedwave
Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 1120 Location: seattle wa usa
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:15 am Post subject: LDP LDS DP DS SLPDPSDDPPSLLPDS |
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Okay, hear my rant...
To explicitly call out Pushing just sounds silly and redundant to me, when it comes to skateboarding. To the general public, pushing is what we DO on a skateboard. Common sense. Which is why "Long Distance Pushing" is kind of...obvious.
I take it a compliment, in a way. This phrase 'long distance pushing' evolved out of LDP, with a desire to differentiate pumping from pushing.
But the fact is, specifying "push" isn't even necessary. Most people in the world, the hoi polloi, still don't even know what pumping a skateboard even means! Which is the whole reason "LDP" germinated.
In contrast, telling someone that you push a skateboard is like telling them you eat -- *with your mouth!!!*
A little history... The origin of the term "LDP" for Long Distance Pumping, comes from a guy known as "HC" or "sk8norcal" on Silverfish. Several years back when there were some other guys doing LDP in parallel with what we were doing up here in the Northwest, HC brought up the term "LDP" for Long Distance Pumping, on the NCDSA forum. The phrase stuck. It was easy to say, easy to understand, and summarized what we'd been bending over backward to explain to people everywhere, not online as much as in person...that's where the conversations get really awkward
So...in summary:
Pushing, it's what we do on skateboards. People "get it." The Pushing part is assumed. Which results in Distance Skateboarding. DS. Long Distance Skateboarding. LDS.
Pumping, we have to go out of our way to explain it. Distance Pumping. DP. Long Distance Pumping. LDP.
Whatever you do, don't trip over acronyms (unless you're on the internet...) Just skate. For distance. And if you say "distance" that usually implies long distance, so you don't really need to say "long"... but you could, unless you're just kinda going medium or short-long but not quite medium or semi-longish-short-medium or shortish-semi long medium.
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LDPanda

Joined: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 418 Location: Seattle, WA
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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I think LDS DP is mormon porn.
Edit: OMG 300th post, what a dissapointment i had hoped i would say something profound or at least sensible for my 300th. |
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Belegnole

Joined: 23 Jul 2008 Posts: 86 Location: Appleton, Wisconsin
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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lol, rant excepted.
Here's one of those differences....I always think of skateboarding as going down a hill. It's most likely because of when I started skating and of course at that time I don't think there was a name for pumping yet..
heck they had just invented the wheel after all....... _________________ No matter where you go, there you are.... |
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Ian the Groove Worshipper
Joined: 03 Dec 2008 Posts: 79 Location: Largo, FL
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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Sometimes I wonder if what I like to do is LDP.
Pumping is my pleasure, my passion, my zen. But most often it's for less than 10 miles. Is that long distance? |
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pavedwave
Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 1120 Location: seattle wa usa
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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dave, rest assured your 300th post is solid gold
and yeah IMO anything around 5+ miles is groovin and getting into the long-ish realm. I feel like thats just when you start to get in the Zone, and it's nice to stay there even longer when you can afford the free time. the endorphin rush at even longer distances is a definite reality, I feel it takes closer to an hour to hit it.
one of the shortest "long" distance running events is the 5000 meter which is a little over 3 miles, so I think going nearly twice that distance by skateboard is roughly a good equivalent of effort for the distance. not that it has to be competiitive at all, just a gauge of how one might define an abstract such as "long." |
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pavedwave
Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 1120 Location: seattle wa usa
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Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 5:31 am Post subject: |
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| Ian the Groove Worshipper wrote: | | Pumping is my pleasure, my passion, my zen. |
This is all that really matters.
The last couple months have been nuts, in a very good way. Getting ready for ultraskates and cross-state rides is a hugely mental thing, far more than any physical aspect. Getting out and pumping a commute every day or so is a soul rejuvenation for me which nobody can take away or diminish. I don't see all the distance as preparation for any end goal, but as an everyday experience in the present. Something like an event day comes, and you're just ready to do it. The fact that you've been out riding every day as an integral part of your life. It just is.
A big ride is something that just keeps your brain buzzing. There are the logistics which simply fall into place. The anticipation and what that does to your sleep patterns and firing of synapses in all directions is always the big unknown. Sometimes it results in insomnia, other times it creates pleasant and bizarre dreams. What I've found is right when a huge ride is over, there is always a euphoria and desire to move onto the next.
The WWW is an interesting tool for sharing stoke, technique, event info, and meeting up to get out and ride. That's why pavedwave.org was created.
The internet also offers the possibility of blogging endlessly about philosophy and what is and what is not. This aspect is an endless rabbit hole that is occasionally interesting, but doesn't really feed my soul. In fact, it can just be a drag. "Let your haters be your motivators" is one of these credos that comes from the internet culture. I think that's fine as a kind of defense mechanism for those who seem to need one. Personally, I think it gives "haters" too much credit. I'll occasionally make some effort to explain LDP now and then, but I have no motivation to defend it. Indifference is better. When you do something that returns more energy than you put into it, it needs no defending. I simply delete negative Youtube comments, Facebook "friends", and watch and chuckle at the negative vibes over on the Lush forum in the UK. Anything of value will always be a target -- and the very presence of negative criticism is an acknowledgment that there is something valuable, something positive, on the other side. The louder the critique, the more valuable the other side becomes. Haters do not motivate nor do they demotivate. They do acknowledge there is something here out of their control.
I don't care if LDP ever fits into the skateboarding mainstream specifically, it's never been my expectation. In fact the huge majority of people I know locally who are into it and ride with me now and then, don't play the online game, don't know silverfish, skatefurther, ncdsa, slalomskater, they don't really follow the pavedwave forum, a good number of them are more old-school skateboarding loners, than group-thinkers that show up for "sessions." But we still bump into each other when it happens and ride together -- an invisible tribe, as far as the internet is concerned.
I get into the zen and peace of the long, quiet morning sessions, solo, riding all the way into work. For me that's been the root of my experience and what defines LDP.
Then there are the sunny afternoons where maybe just another friend, maybe a few, we will end up all skating the same boardwalk, off and on, cruising and dabbling with it, having a brew, checking the volleyball game as we cruise by. Is that LDP? Sure, it's a taste, and it's all good.
In summary? It's summer, I think I'll be done with the internet for a while 
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