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pavedwave
Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 1120 Location: seattle wa usa
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Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 12:44 am Post subject: Skateboard is a vehicle, not a toy. |
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"Old" news, but important to consider the parallels to distance skateboarding.
http://www.iisa.org/legal/cleveland.htm
Dismissal of an Inline Skating Charge in Cleveland
How One Skater Fought the Law... and Won!
In some places, inline skating is illegal. This isn't to say inline skates have been outlawed, but rather certain antiquated prohibitions against using tiny metal-wheeled rollerskates in traffic haven't been updated to accommodate new skating technology which includes stable boots, smooth-riding wheels, and brakes. After getting a skating ticket in his hometown, Cleveland Heights skater Lawrence Minadeo fought the law and won. His success is a textbook example of how you too can help update the law and take back the streets.
This is his testimony, starting with the 50+ year-old law he challenged.
311.03 TOY VEHICLES ON STREETS.
No person on roller skates, or riding in or by means of any skateboard, coaster, toy vehicle, or similar device, shall go upon any roadway except while crossing a street on a crosswalk, or unless the same has been set aside for playground purposes.
(Ord. 30 - 1941. Passed 9-15-41)
Ohio Skate Crusader Lawrence Minadeo
"It's no crime to skate. It's progress!" --Lawrence Minadeo
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On Saturday, September 4, 1999, Labor Day weekend I, Lawrence Martin Minadeo was ticketed by a police officer while inline skating on a residential street within the city limits of Cleveland Heights. The time was approximately 6:00 pm and there was little to no traffic at the time. The officer that ticketed me stated I was in direct violation of Ordinance 311.03. The officer gave no further explanation to me, insisting that I use the sidewalks for inline skating. Upon receipt of the ticket I noticed it stated the "toy vehicle in street" as the active violation enforceable by the 311.03 ordinance. I have been well aware of the ordinance 311.03 for seven years now as a resident and homeowner in Cleveland Heights. I have been using my five wheel inline skates in Cleveland Heights on the city roadways three to five days a week for seven years as my alternative means of conveyance. My first objection to this ticket is the appropriateness of enforcing a prohibition of inline skates on the city roadways with an archaic, boilerplate 311.03 ordinance where there is no specific mention of the means of conveyance I was using in the ordinance, that of a five wheel inline skate. To infer that an inline skate is a similar device would imply that the framers of this ordinance looked fifty years ahead to the advancement of technology and the invention of the inline skate in the year 1990.
This ordinance was written and passed in 1941. In 1941 the roller skate as mentioned in the traffic code was a toe pinch roller skate. This toe pinch roller skate had no boot, no cast precision bearings, used metal wheels, and lacked any braking method. In fact, all the devices mentioned: roller skates, skateboards, coasters, and toy vehicles were devices designed for recreational use only and share common traits. These devices are slow moving and impede the flow of traffic when used in the street, and they have little or no maneuverability at higher speeds and are without any braking methods or braking hardware. I use my inline skates as a safe, ecologically sound alternative to the use of my car. My ability to control both the speed and direction with my inline skates is similar to that of a bicyclist. In many instances, I travel at the marked speeds for traffic on these roadways. I utilize all the safety gear that a bicyclist would use. When I was stopped and given this ticket I was equipped with a bright orange vest, a helmet, and protective hand gear. When I inline skate at night I maintain high visibility with a petzl headlamp which attaches to my helmet for oncoming traffic and I also utilize a blinking red "hot-dot" placed on my backside for traffic which flows from behind. I take every reasonable precaution to signal other vehicular traffic of my presence on the roadway. I also obey the traffic codes established for motorists and bicyclists.
It may be the intention of the City of Cleveland Heights to prohibit the use of inline skates on the city's roadways but as to date there is no law or ordinance that directly states such a prohibition or ban. There is an ordinance passed in 1941, which prohibits toy like devices incapable of high speed, maneuverability and the ability to quickly stop, from using the city roadways. These devices are specifically mentioned. To make it very clear what constitutes a toy vehicle; the ending clause reveals where it would be acceptable for these devices to be used -a space or area that is specifically "set aside for playground purposes". I contend that the clause "similar devices" cannot be reasonably applied to today's inline skate technology because the inline skate has proven to be a safe, fast, and highly maneuverable means of transportation for about 30 million skaters within the United States alone. It is a transportation alternative for the Amish community in Lancaster, Pennsylvania.
My second concern with the city's enforcement of the 311.03 ordinance against my use of an inline skate on the city roadway is directed towards the city prosecutor. Is it lawful for a city prosecutor to be the sole party responsible for determining whether an invention is a conveyance or a toy? Short of practicing law what qualifications would a trial attorney have in determining the suitability of a given means of conveyance and its proper respect to the requirements for its acceptance on the city roadways? Isn't this question more appropriately answered by the city's legislative body?
I cite an enacted substitute ordinance (No. SO98-1352) amending Title 12 and Title 13 of the Metropolitan Code of Nashville and Davidson County to regulate the use of roller skates and inline skates. Why? Because it was determined to be in the best interest of the Metropolitan Government to delete the current section 180 of its traffic code written and enacted over forty years ago with respect to its "toy vehicle in street" prohibitions. In essence, redefining and regulating the use of roller skates and inline skates for means of conveyance upon city roadways. While inline skating in Cleveland Heights for these seven years I have maintained and met every condition for compliance with regards to this newly revised code for Nashville and Davidson County. Have not my years as an avid inline skater on the city roadways of Cleveland Heights set a precedent, which acknowledges no enforceable offense?
My search for other discarded 311.03 "toy vehicle" ordinances prompted another more serious question. In the City of Cleveland Heights this violation charged against me is punishable by time served in jail. It is a fourth degree misdemeanor. The ticket fine can exceed $200.00 dollars. This fine served against one accused of using a toy vehicle in the street. This quite possibly could exceed a man or woman's daily wage. It most certainly exceeds mine. This, I think is unconscionable. Seemingly so did the Board of Supervisors in the county of Santa Clara in the state of California with its decision to limit fines levied against inline skaters with its Sec.B5-35: Penalty ordinance. Another case of ineffective skate laws and "toy vehicle" prohibitions being revoked and replaced is in the city of Annapolis, Maryland.
In Annapolis, the newly revised Ordinance No. O-25-96 (effective July 8, 1996) states the credo of any responsible inline skater:
Sec. 12.48.020 A.
"A person may not ride on or use any non-motorized wheeled vehicle in a negligent manner on any public street, alley sidewalk or way in the city of Annapolis. For purposes of this section, a person is guilty of negligent riding or using a non-motorized wheeled vehicle if the person rides or uses the non-motorized vehicle in a careless or imprudent manner that endangers any property or the life, safety or person of any individual."
This ordinance is cited because within Sec. 1248.030 Violation; penalty new precedents are established for possible fines and levies against the inline skate community when convicted of negligent use of the city roadways. I add at this point, and staunchly deny, any negligence while using the city roadways. The ticket given to me was not for a rate of speed, or recklessness. In observance of the traffic codes within Cleveland Heights my ticket is not even a moving violation. It is about the prohibition of toys being used outside of a crosswalk, or area set aside for playground purposes.
I would like to mention that previous to residing in Cleveland Heights, I had lived in downtown Cleveland, for the purpose of being close to my alma mater from which I subsequently graduated. I freely used the city roadways of Cleveland proper without any hindrance or harassment from local authorities using any anti-skate laws. Currently, one of the popular courier services in Cleveland - Quicksilver employs couriers whose sole method of transport and delivery are inline skates. The last mention concerning my inline skating in downtown Cleveland is the opening day of Gateway Arena including Gund Arena and the sanctioned race held on the streets of downtown Cleveland. The Greater Cleveland Sports Commission hosted a 10K inline Skating Race, which utilized many of the downtown streets including the last leg skirting by the work-in-progress construction of the Rock Hall. Hundreds of people participated. I won first place.
My inline skates are not toys, and they are not a similar device to the toy(s) mentioned in the 311.03 ordinance. They are a clearly definable means of conveyance, which can safely, and without harm and hindrance to other vehicular and pedestrian traffic move on the city's roadways. An experienced inline skater is capable of stopping on clear, dry pavement from a speed of 10 miles per hour within a braking distance of twenty-five feet. In many states these are the minimum requirements for the legal use of bicycles on the city roadways. I promote positive legislative change that amends these outdated anti-skate ordinances. I would like to help and inform the court and council of the ways other cities have encouraged people to live healthy, and to "blade" safely, well within the confines of the law. It's no crime to skate. It's progress!
RESULT (from an email from Lawrence Minadeo):
"The materials [the IISA] sent were very helpful.... I received a complete dismissal and a precedent has been set as to the constitutional question of enforcing an outdated 311.03 anti-skate law. I won my attempt to dismiss. Now I am looking to have the law changed."
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LDPanda

Joined: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 418 Location: Seattle, WA
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Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Definitely good to see, but Im not sure it even remotely applies to longboarders. The main legal issue with longboards is not our ability to keep up with traffic or maneuver with precision, the issue is no brakes. I cant really blame the legislation for preventing longboards on roads, we arnt really safe around heavy traffic. I DO take issue with individual police officers who choose to ENFORCE these laws even when no safety concern is present. The issue should be public safety, and a longboard weaving through traffic at high speeds isnt safe, but bombing a deserted hill in the middle of nowhere probably is (at least to bystanders). To me at least, the issue is enforcement, not legislation. |
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pavedwave
Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 1120 Location: seattle wa usa
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Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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It's quite relevant to Seattle. The problem we have is this "toy" status, same as what the rollerblader got hit with. I've been booted off streets during my commute downtown and in Fremont and the cops cited this municipality specifically...
"SMC 11.40.250 Playing in streets.
No person upon roller skates, or riding in or by means of any coaster,
skateboard, toy vehicle or similar device, shall go upon the roadway
of any arterial street or transit coach route, except while crossing
such street at a crosswalk; or engage in any sport, amusement or
exercise or play in the roadway of any street. "
Once we have the opportunity to demonstrate a skateboard safe stopping distance by means of footbraking (if footbraking "mechanism" is ever accepted) then I believe we'd have a chance at this -- much like Portland Oregon's skateboard-friendly city laws.
Existing skateboarding legislation is not based on present day reality, and longboard-skateboarding alongside traffic is not inherently dangerous.
The problem is that the laws were crafted in many cases when skateboards had metal or clay wheels, or that the authors of laws had only in mind the image of a small park skateboard, with tiny, hard wheels.
Another confounding problem is that the pool of longboarders who ride "in a straight line" and responsibly, is so small. For all the excitement and growth of our LDP and cross-country tribes, I still hear a lot of pushback within our skateboarding community (at least the "online" skaters) that distance skateboarding is dull and not worth doing. The vast majority of skateboard activities require owning the road -- carving, sliding, downhill, racing through cones-- these are what most of us consider de facto longboarding outings, and for good reason; it's fun. And personally I enjoy it all. But it's also a catch-22...
As far as enforcement goes, I agree with your assessment. Inconsistent enforcement based on the "general philosophy" of the officer seems to be what actually happens-- typically we're allowed to skate because cops use enough common sense to invest their time on real crimes. Honestly, I've only been removed from the street a few times in total, since I'm usually riding solo and conservatively (though illegally). But in the long run, it would be great if responsible riding were rewarded with legal acceptance, so we wouldn't have to wonder when some bored cop will randomly pick us off the street just to hassle for a half hour. |
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pavedwave
Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 1120 Location: seattle wa usa
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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New York State D.M.V. ROCKS!
A state where inline skates and bikes have the same legal definition.
http://www.nydmv.state.ny.us/dmvfaqs.htm
"Bicycles, In-Line Skates and Scooters
Does NYS law require bicyclists and in-line skaters to wear helmets?
New York State law requires that bicyclists and in-line skaters 14 years old or younger wear bicycle safety helmets. The parents or guardians of children who break the helmet laws can pay a fine of up to $50.
Are there special traffic laws for bicyclists and in-line skaters?
Bicyclists, in-line skaters, and motor vehicle drivers must all use and obey the same traffic laws. A motorist must recognize that a bicyclist or in-line skater has the same rights as any another motor vehicle driver. Bicyclists and skaters must obey all traffic signals, signs and pavement markings. The bicyclists must use a signal to turn on a roadway, a bike lane or bike path. The bicyclists and skaters who break the law are subject to traffic tickets. Parents are responsible for the violations committed by their children who less than the age of 18.
On what types of roads can I ride a bicycle or glide with in-line skates?
Bicyclists and skaters have the legal right to share the road on most public highways. Bicyclists and skaters are not allowed on interstate highways and expressways. The jurisdictions that manage other controlled-access highways, for example parkways, can prohibit all bicycles.
Must bicyclists and in-line skaters move in the same direction that vehicle traffic moves?
The law requires that bicyclists ride or in-line skaters glide with the traffic. The main cause of accidents is bicyclists or skaters that ride against traffic. The bicyclists and skaters that move with traffic are easier for motorists to see and their actions are easier to predict. Bicyclists and skaters that move with traffic also prevent interference with the flow of traffic and pedestrians.
Can bicyclists and in-line skaters travel side-by-side on the road?
Bicyclists or in-line skaters can travel side-by-side on the road, but must ride in single-file when other vehicles need to pass. If there is enough space, more than two bicyclists can travel side-by-side on a shoulder, lane or bicycle path that is for bicyclists and skaters. When bicyclists or in-line skaters overtake the other bikers and in-line skaters, they must ride in single-file." |
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Badger
Joined: 22 Dec 2008 Posts: 10
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Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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Good post. Comforting to know that some of us are in the same boat. I just got stopped this weekend by a county sheriff and was informed of the Colorado no toys on roads law. He stated that skateboards were to remain on the sidewalk. The irony was, that as he spoke, I was staring down the last 100 feet of sidewalk leading into a fifty-mile abyss of cornfields and rabbit brush, which was to include route. I looked at him with a sense of distress; my choice was to scrap my ride, on a beautiful Saturday afternoon or sink deep into my anti-authoritarian ego and ask for a compromise. I stated that I would be happy to abide by cyclist rules and stick to the bike lane and respect the rules of the road. Kindly, he noted that he wouldn’t give me any flack so long as I stuck to my word. Fortunately, I was given a chance to skate another day, all be it as an outlaw, into the windswept High Plains of Northern Colorado.
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