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Pusher to Complement my Subsonic Pulse?

 
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scooterdad



Joined: 15 Jan 2009
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Location: Eastern Shore, Maryland

PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 7:03 am    Post subject: Pusher to Complement my Subsonic Pulse? Reply with quote

Hoping to get some suggestions for a board that will push easier than by Subsonic Pulse.  I am very new to skateboarding and love the LDP concept.  I am hoping to do the Ultraskate this spring, but I worry I may tire out from pumping and may need to jump on an alternate board to push some, maybe alternating back and forth.  I feel pretty high up on the pulse when I try to push and a bit unstable doing so.

I don't have any other longboards yet, so it might be nice to have something that can do a little bit of everything, though there are few hills near me so downhill is not important to me.  One board that caught my eye was a Loaded Dervish since it is so low to the ground.  Any other suggestions are very welcome.  Thanks!


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blake



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i am a huge pusher i do it more then pump. a good pusher i think is a drop deck or a drop through or both depending on what you like. So you dont have to reach for the ground and you can have huge wheels so it will roll farther with less effort. if you want to see some good pushing setups go to my last post in this part of the forum. http://pavedwave.myfastforum.org/about344.html
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pavedwave



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

more and more i like the Cambiar / G-bomb setup as a pusher.  the deck is very lightweight, and the springiness is lively.   it's definitely going to be my backup deck in the upcoming ultraskate.

the subsonic Century boards are also a good consideration, in a light flex.  sheldon and bullwings give some really good reviews in this thread:  http://pavedwave.myfastforum.org/ftopic171-0-asc-10.php
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blake



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JP i might have to barrow one of your bracket decks and put my big wheels on them and just see how that works for the next ultra
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scooterdad



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, looks like some good options to consider.  Sorry about the double-post see below

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scooterdad



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, looks like some good options to consider.  A little off topic, but do most folks at these Ultraskates generally mostly pump or mostly push or is it more common to do half and half?
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pavedwave



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scooterdad wrote:
do most folks at these Ultraskates generally mostly pump or mostly push or is it more common to do half and half?

In reality, most people push drop-decks most of the time.   Pushing is very efficient, easier to learn and gain confidence, and more compatible with less-than-perfect surface conditions.     I've always appreciated the efficiency and mellow stoke of the push--glide--push--glide.  With the right timing, low-impact rolling of the foot, and gliding on one foot, changing push feet, it's very meditative.

Though I honestly think that the more you're able to pump, the more likely you are to travel farther without injury.   One great side effect of the ultras is that I've seen people improve their pumping abilities over the course of that single day!

With a surface as smooth and flat as Greenlake or Dorney lake over in the UK, I strive for 95% pumping and a little bit of pushing now and then just to loosen up the muscles and keep things interesting.  And when we chart a longer, slightly undulating course like the 25-mile Burke-Gilman trail here in Seattle, it will be more like 80% pump, with more pushing up inclines.  

As new-agey as it might sound, I find pumping and pushing to both have zen-like potential.    Of course my bias has always been toward pumping into "the zone", losing oneself, where you're travelling for miles doing endless turn after turn, and don't even realize how far you've gone.
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LDPanda



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lately ive been doing some ultraskate 'training' and finding the balance between pumping and pushing has been important. Basically, i do whatever's easiest at the time. I push up steep inclines and whenever i get out of breath, i pump when my muscles hurt. Seems to work for me. I think on the flats, pumping is probably more efficient, and its great on the downhill. Uphill pumping seems to be a lil more work than its worth for me, at least when im going for distance.
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scooterdad



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the thoughts on pumping and pushing.  So far, I have been doing almost all pumping, though I really struggle on anything more than a slight incline.  Perhaps having no background in skating has made me stick with pumping since I have no pushing to "fall back on".  But if I want to make it 24 hours, or 100 miles or even 50 miles I better have a plan B for when I get  tired or want to switch which muscles I am using.

I look the idea of the Cambiar.  I looked on the GBomb website though and all I see are the 36 and 40.  Are these newer versions?  Is the Cambiar still available?  I have searched and found some reviews of the Cambiar but nothing on the 36 and 40.  Any help would be appreciated.
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gboom



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scooterdad wrote:
 I looked on the GBomb website though and all I see are the 36 and 40.  Are these newer versions?  Is the Cambiar still available?  I have searched and found some reviews of the Cambiar but nothing on the 36 and 40.  Any help would be appreciated.


Scooterdad, JP pinged me about your question. Here is the skinny. I put that site out about 3 years back (after we applied for our patent) and never touched it. I sold a handful of those "cutting board" decks...ironically I actually do have one that is a cutting board    . Those decks are true first generation and are not available any more. The site ended up as a way to introduce the concept, get feedback, and I never updated it. We then focused all our energy on the Cambiar development that is now brought to market.

The Cambiar decks have sold at a nice rate without having to push on the marketing at all. This has allowed us to focus attention on our early customers in order to keep a good reputation while we addressed all the details of ramping up. To date, viral stuff and word of mouth have been perfect marketing. However, we are looking to get bit more serious in the near future so expect a new site from us as we come kicking and screaming into the 21st century, bout time huh?

The Cambiar is the current offering on that is available and you can contact me at sales@gbomblongboards.com (or mark.groenenboom@hotmail.com) if you think it is a good fit. Also read through the boards section thread on the deck for more details from customers rather than us!



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