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SilverComet/Chief Ladiga Sk8 Challenge, May 2011 & 2012
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dogzep



Joined: 09 Apr 2011
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Location: Shady side Md.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:05 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote

I got the whip so I'm ready to go but I've got a training question for those who have done this sort of distance before.
       How much distance should I work up to before doing 40,50 and then 90 miles in this challenge? I've seen some pretty sparse plans for completing a running marathon but I've always believed that one should get up to about 3/4 of the distance before an event. I don't even know how to deal with training for back to back days of suffering.Any thoughts or help would be appreciated.
                                         Thanks.
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pavedwave



Joined: 22 Oct 2007
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Location: seattle wa usa

PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dogzep wrote:
I got the whip so I'm ready to go but I've got a training question for those who have done this sort of distance before.
       How much distance should I work up to before doing 40,50 and then 90 miles in this challenge? I've seen some pretty sparse plans for completing a running marathon but I've always believed that one should get up to about 3/4 of the distance before an event. I don't even know how to deal with training for back to back days of suffering.Any thoughts or help would be appreciated.
                                         Thanks.

Looks like you're officially signed up-- awesome!!

I am not one of the podium guys but I have good confidence to see it through to the end with a relatively good finish time.  

The thing that's worked for me is just putting in the miles in successive days, but pulling back on the day where your body tells you to take a break.    In the months leading up to something like this I usually do around three 12-15 mile commutes at a 10-11 mph pace, then just one longer ride on the weekend in the 20-40 mile range.   If two weekend rides, then I might rest longer to have "fresh legs" on Wednesday.  I'd also follow your 3/4-distance plan, a few weeks prior to the event, one or two rides that get closer to 60-65 miles just to get a feel for the burn of day 3, but never to the point you feel you're going to hurt yourself...if you get to that point in weeks leading up, I'd ratchet the pace way back, or even a phone call to a buddy or grab a bus, injuries during training are not trivial!   I'm not overly formulaic about it, just follow the body-feedback loop.  

At least a few times I try to skate 12-15 mile rides 4+ days in a row at a more aggressive pace, only then do I reach an exhaustion deep-down that I think prepares you to knock out much longer days with confidence.    That's the same deep burn that mellows me out and dissolves 90% of work-related stress  Very Happy   I think most people are capable of doing more 40-50 mile rides, but for me the law of diminishing returns kicks in past 30 miles.   These are all fairly focused sessions, rarely with any break longer than it takes to dispose of a snack wrapper or stop for a red light.    And for me now is a good time to start that gradual climb  (the 6-7 week build up to apex by mid-May.)  

So those are my data points, but I know it varies for everyone.   I think many guys can still put in half the miles I do and have an even faster time as far as the "racing" goes.   I'm just able to do long rides because of circumstance--having a work commute that allows it.  Running, biking, other cross-training are also do-able, but I have learned to go mellow and be conservative when training in other muscle groups.   Right now I'm doing some bike rides in nasty weather, roller skate every Friday and lift weights throughout the week.  As Marion mentioned in his video training spots, just keep skating the miles!
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dogzep



Joined: 09 Apr 2011
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Location: Shady side Md.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, that is close to what I've been doing.Four rides a week alternating between pushing and pumping on different days.Twice a week mountain bike rides smooth off the rough edges.One ride is for going long and lots of stretching in between.Unfortunatly I've recently learned that there are some serious issues with my favorite recovery drink and I'm some what at a loss to find a replacement. Who would have thought that Beer wasn't the perfect recovery formula?
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jazzjulien



Joined: 22 Oct 2010
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Location: London

PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can someone that has ridden it last year comment on the road quality?
I'm asking to know if I need "plush" wheels or if I can ride a bit harder wheels.

Also, what are the basics not to forget like:
- Camelback
- Gels
- Food
- Socks
- Band-Aid
- Skate tool
- Salt caps
- ...

Am I missing something essential?

On another note. How do we get from the airport to the start?
Anyone else arriving at Atlanta airport Thursday around 6:30pm?
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stocago



Joined: 14 Apr 2008
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Location: Clearwater, FL

PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jazzjulien wrote:
Can someone that has ridden it last year comment on the road quality?
I'm asking to know if I need "plush" wheels or if I can ride a bit harder wheels.

I only did the first 38 miles, but there was plenty of rough concrete (or whatever that was). I don't think anyone ran harder wheels than I did at 86/83a, but I think o'tang 'thane is forgiving. I think running 79a 85mm vents would be more harsh perhaps. I'd play it safe and go 78-81a, but I had no regrets last year.

Was the surface the next 45 miles any worse? Anyone?
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pavedwave



Joined: 22 Oct 2007
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Location: seattle wa usa

PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a good amount of miles on "brushed concrete" leading up to the state line on day 2, where you'll appreciate having wheels in the 78a-81a range.   And over this many miles I find overall speed gains are based more on the comfort by cancelling out vibrations versus the micro-seconds you may or may not gain running a harder duro.   Long stretches of vibrations are taxing not just physically but mentally.

My basics list is this
- Camelbak with ice water and powdered (flavorless, sugarless) Carbs
- Carbohydrate / electrolyte drink in hand-held bottles
- Nuts, dried berries, fig newtons, one nature bar
- A little beef jerky (sodium, protein)
- Panda licorice  (pure pleasure)
- Only a few gels or Shot Blox, sometimes they aren't even appealing
- Skate tool, extra bushing and extra axle nut  (in case of blow out)
- Drivers license and insurance card, cash and credit card

Optional but taking:
- MP3
- Cel phone with GPS

Other:
- I lather sunscreen in the morning so I don't have to carry it.
- Sunglasses

On the first two days the big thing is to think how many hours you expect to take you and not overpack, the first day goes by pretty fast.   For example on day one I get by strictly on carb drinks and maybe one or two gels in total.  Sometimes in the excitement it's easy to forget to eat something BEFORE the race starts, that holds you well for the first hour.   The third day, I pack more food.   This is personal preference, but I tend to be self-reliant and try to pack almost everything when it comes to nutrition, expecting the race organizer to provide just water stations.   I don't like to try out new energy bars gels or foods I haven't already been eating on my prep up to an event like this.

I'm coming in around 5 pm Thursday and will take the train mostly to get around.   Have you set up overnight stay for first / last nights?
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dogzep



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't worked out lodgings yet as I was waiting for suggestions or anything set up by Marion.
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jazzjulien



Joined: 22 Oct 2010
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Location: London

PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I booked only the first night in smyrna and the last at the airport.
I went very cheap
Homestead Suites Atlanta - Cumberland Mall for thursday
Country Inn & Suites Atlanta Airport North for sunday night

See you all there to have some fun and blisters
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dogzep



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like only one spot left!
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pavedwave



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Location: seattle wa usa

PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's some new Lodging info just in from Marion, I will get this up on NCDSA tonight!      

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ROCKMART May 11th.

Econlodge 678-757-1107

King Room $62.99

2 Queens $67.49

If we book more than 10 rooms the rate will drop to:

$60 and $65

Ask for Bina when you call and you MUST tell them you are with Skate Challenge.

Shuttle service will be provided to and from hotel to supper and to start of Day 2.

Weaver May 12th.

Super 8 Anniston

$49.95 2 Doubles

Tell them you are with Skate Challenge.

***ALL RESERVATIONS MUST BE MADE ON PHONE TO GET RATE***

Shuttle service will be provided to and from hotel and trailhead.


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There are 23 people who've paid so are now on the "Official" list -- so plenty of spots open!   I know a big block of spots will fill up when the NYC crowd kicks in, maybe 10 or so right there?
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Location: seattle wa usa

PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This was just posted on the Facebook page:

"ATTENTION RACERS!

In an attempt to help with logistics, please provide the following details to (Georgia) neatnickga@gmail.com

Out of Town Racers:

Do you have accommodations before & after the race? If so, where?

Do you need transportation to & from accommodations?

If so, send your arrive time & departure time & mode of travel.

Do you need transportation to start of race & after the finish of race back to your accommodations?

Locals – If you have space to house racers, how many?"
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jazzjulien



Joined: 22 Oct 2010
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Location: London

PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2012 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a link to the video for all of you who should come next year Wink

Link


It's super shaky and super long but it gives you the vibes.
Super good atmosphere for 3 days of ultimate skating!
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Madmonkey



Joined: 26 Apr 2012
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Location: Orlando

PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2012 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jazzjulien wrote:
Here's a link to the video for all of you who should come next year Wink

Link


It's super shaky and super long but it gives you the vibes.
Super good atmosphere for 3 days of ultimate skating!


Thank you so much for recording and posting that, I enjoyed every minute!! I've been really curious about exactly what your video showed, and I didn't realize the trail was that narrow. The first day looked beautiful; trail conditions, weather, the whole nine. The second day start...wow. Trail looked sketchy, hills, twists, WOODEN BRIDGES?! I was nervous just watching it until you guys got past the train station. Really neat to see everyone camped out and cheering folks at the finish line. LOL at paved's worn out sneakers at the end. Epic!
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pavedwave



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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AWESOME vid Julien, and such a great buzz to skate with you again!!

Typical of me, fallen into the trap of facebook and forgot to post the results on PW!!    This year was off the charts, and people have already been committing to next year, the way things sound it could practically double in size again.     It's truly amazing how this event is blowing up!

I know as the event grows we'll have to get even more explicit about people being prepared.  We had two guys out from heat exhaustion the first day, but it wasn't just that, they were both literally hospitalized, one had near liver failure and the other could have had a heart attack, accdg to the doctors.   Serious stuff, if you are really competitive I suggest some training at your "race pace" in HOT climates beforehand.    I've got a slightly less intense approach toward it, the goal this year being "to survive" so I was pretty happy with the results.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

2017 update!

Marion's giving a Chief Ladiga training Webinar next Monday!!

Check it out




Follow up  2/13/17 - Slideshow here:

http://www.slideshare.net/MarionS...silver-comet-skate-challenge-2017

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