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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:01 pm    Post subject:  Reply with quote

Looks like San Jose will be finished repaving a section of the 237 Bikeway on the north side of the freeway this month.  That parallels the other segment of the trail on the south side of the freeway, but it is on the more scenic side.  Will have to see how the pavement quality is between the end of that new pavement and the Coyote Creek trail.  Have biked it many times, but new skated it, so will see once the paving crews depart and the new segment is open.

Also found out SJ will be paving the 6 miles of the Guadalupe River Trail from Alviso south to the SJ Airport:
- http://www.sanjoseca.gov/index.aspx?NID=2833

Supposed to begin work on 6/12 and take about 10 months, so I guess it may open in the spring of 2013.  Once done, there will be ~11 miles of paved trail linked to the San Tomas Creek trail (~5 miles) and the north end of the Coyote Creek trail (~4 miles), so should make for some good skating.  Will need to see what they do with the current GRT trail underpasses as they are currently very rough concrete (big traction grooves cut across the path) - non-skatable.  Hopefully they'll pave over that to make a smooth in- and out-run.

UPDATES:

Seems they have finished up paving past the San Jose International airport.  So I could actually skateboard from my house to the airport to catch a flight some place, that is cool!  Just need to figure out how to get the luggage thing taken care of.

Only problem is they are starting from the south end of the gravel section, so I'll have to wait until the whole ~6.3 mile stretch is paved before I can hook up with it from home.  But then that will open up almost 9.5 miles of skateable pavement to the south, about a 5 mile skate from my front door, can't wait!  I hope they can finish prior to the rains this winter, otherwise that may slow down the project completion until next spring.

Saw that they have the trail graded for paving up to where I can connect to it from my house.  Looks like a coat of oil has been applied, so just a matter of time (and dry weather) for them to get the new pavement laid down.  And I did see that there is equipment at the far end of the trail and that side of the trail is closed and under construction.  Now all they need is a good stretch of dry weather to get the work done.

Only problem I see is that they are paving the trail on the side of the river that tends to flood all the under crossings.  There are trails down both sides of the river and the est side (that is being paved) seems to have under crossings that are much lower than those on the west side.  Don't know if they are planning to do anything with the under crossings or not.  If not, that will make that trail impassable for 6 months or so a year!  Oh well, at least that is better than not accessible at all with the original gravel.

Constructions update page:
- http://www.sanjoseca.gov/index.aspx?NID=2699

And the pavement is coming (photo from 12/2/12 at the 237 Bikeway trail head):


And yes, the underpass there does flood (above photo taken on over crossing just about center of the photo below - under pass of the paved trail is the angled segment starting at the far right and it hits the water just past the white painted area):


Checked the trail out today (12/16) and 2nd layer or pavement is down, locked gate is gone and did sneak past the fold-up signs on my bike to ride a bit of the fresh asphalt.  Looks good, they still need to so the final fog coat, striping, signs and probably some trail head work, but should be skate-able shortly, adding about 8 miles of trails that I can reach from my house.  I think out and back that should be a bit over marathon distance.

(12/19/2102): Managed to skate the new section of pavement.  Looks like 3 or 4 other skaters beat me to the new pavement as there were some tracks visible along with some bike tracks.  But it is a nice 12' wide 0.7 mile stretch from 237 down to Tasman Drive.  The Tasman undercrossing is not skateable as it is both under water and had the huge 2" deep grooves across the down and up ramps.  Once the paving is done, the contractor is supposed to begin work on raising the undercrossing 3 feet and paving over that horrible grooved concrete.  That will probably be next spring/summer, depending on when the contract is awarded.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:24 pm    Post subject: Coyote Creek Trail / South Reply with quote

Finally made it down to skate the southern end of the Coyote Creek Trail in San Jose.  Had biked it a few times and it seemed like it might be fun, skated about 7.5 of the 18.7 paved miles:
- http://www.endomondo.com/workouts/49625223

Trail page:
- http://www.sjparks.org/Trails/coyote/index.asp

Pavement conditions somewhat variable, some sections nice, some are a bit rough and some sections appear to be chip sealed.  Other sections have lots of root heaves giving a "hard to pump" surface, those big woops really throw off the pumping.  Fairly shady and somewhat protected from the wind, so if you start at the northern end you skate with the wind and generally uphill on the outbound leg then downhill into the wind on the way back.  A few somewhat sketchy downhill sections where you can't see very far ahead and you start picking up some good speed.  A little foot braking here and there does the trick.  

You could get in a full 60km with an out and back run of the whole trail, from San Jose to Morgan Hill and back.  Probably take about 3.5-4 hours for that as it is not a really fast trail.  Lots of ups and downs and things to break up rhythm.  Also, don't come back too late past the Capitol Ave. undercrossing, as that is a HUGE homeless camp and that is when folks start "coming home from work", so to speak.  Have been by there close to sun down before and it gets REALLY dark under there and all sorts of interesting looking folks are milling around.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 8:04 pm    Post subject: Los Gatos Creek Trail Reply with quote

Finally got out to this trail with the board today.  Ride track below:
- http://www.endomondo.com/workouts/60684191

I've done this trail many times by bicycle, but first time on a long board.  Fairly good trail, some poor quality pavement in sections. Also a couple of wooden board walks and bridges that are best walked over. Couple of fairly steep hills that are also best walked, saves rubber on the shoe sole Smile  There are a couple of the downhills that end in blind, sharp turns, so you need to keep an eye out for those on the way back.  You could bomb those but if there is someone stopped around the blind corner, the trail is dark and narrow and would be hard to stop in time, so best to take those corners with caution.

I rode up about as far as you can go before the trail gets too rough, past the miniature train tracks in the Vasona Lake park, giving about a 13 mile round trip from the north end of the trail.  You pretty much climb all the way if starting at the north end, maybe 50 ft,/mile on average.  With the prevailing wind, you have a tailwind on the way south, but it does not help all that much and actually leaves you in dead air most of the time, so in hot weather, like today, it is really hot.  The return trip is nicer as you have a nice cooling breeze from the wind plus your motion into the wind.

It is a little choppy, in that you just find a good stretch of trail, get into a good groove, then wham, jam on the brakes and hard left (or right) and the trail changes.  It does make the distance go by pretty fast as you are not on one section very long.

More info:
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Gatos_Creek_Trail
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finally got to ride a good portion (about half) of the new pavement on the Guadalupe River Trail in San Jose, CA. today:
- http://www.4crawler.com/Photos/Misc/Skateboard/GUA/index.html

As is, I can skate about 10.5 miles and only 4 street crossings from my doorstep to the San Jose Airport, just need to figure out the luggage bit and I should be set:





Overall a really nice skating trail, but a few little gotchas:

Guessing those expansion joints are right at 75mm wide!



And this takes the cake!


But other than that just mile after mile of this:


Only real problem was that all the trail under crossings are really dirty (fine sand and silt) from the recent rains and by the time I turned around, I had one wheel bearing complaining a bit and by the time I got home, it was almost seized up.  I guess I might want to start carrying a couple of spare bearings for this time of year.

Looking at the VTA/Light Rail fare sheet, you could buy an 8 hour pass for $4.00 and ride the trail south (with a good tail wind all the way) and then take the train back to the north end (about 30 minute ride). You could probably get in a good 5-6 runs before the pass ran out - maybe 40-50 miles of riding all with a tail wind!  Basically hop off the trail at the San Fernando or Convention Center (a bit before the end of the trail) , or the Virginia or Tamien Station at the very south end of the trail, then take light rail north to the Tasman station(25-30 min. ride) which is right next to the STAC bike trail, loop up and over to the north end of the Guadalupe trail and ride all the way south, then repeat for 8 hours!!!  Just like buying a lift ticket at the ski resort, except in this case down-wind instead of down-hill!  The south bay gets a strong afternoon sea breeze in the spring/summer/fall from the north often blowing at 15-20MPH,  The GRT basically heads north-south, so making the run from north to south and riding the light rail back gives a never ending down-wind run.

Update on 25.JAN.2013:

Lower Guadalupe River Trail:

   All centerline striping completed, and meets stringent test requirments for reflectivity to support bike commuter during winter months.

   Bollards have been shipped and will be installed at entry points to prevent vehicle trespassing.  

   Driveway curb cuts to be added to add trail entries for easier transition from on-street bikeways to the trail.

   Form work for the decorative pavement at Gold Street starts on Monday (January 28 )

   Paving of trail between Highway 237 Bikeway and Gold Street was delayed due to this week's rains - it should occur during week of February 4. All trail paving will be done at that time (Yippee).  

   Conduit and electrical service to all under-crossings to be installed by next week.  Under-crossing lights to be installed by end of February.

   Pavement repairs at Skyport Boulevard to occur when we have dryer weather and more constant temperatures (likely in early March).

Update on 09.FEB.2013:

Fresh asphalt from Hwy 237 north to Gold St., so paving mostly done.  They are still finishing up the transitions to the roads.  Tasman under crossing is once again under water.  Can't wait until they get that thing raised and repaved.

Update on 10.FEB.2013:

Skated farther down to the older part of the trail, as far south as Park Ave.  That gives me a 13.2 mi. turn around point for a full marathon on and out and back run.  The pavement quality south of Hedding is variable, some decent and some is horrible.  But it is fairly skatable, the coup[e of down hills are manageable.  The under crossing at Coleman is a bit sketchy, very narrow with blind turns on the steepest part, so you need to take it easy there in case there is traffic coming the other way.  At Park, there were some kids that had a ramp set up and they were skating down the far side bank and trying to jump the river channel.  Saw a few make it over but not stick the landing.  Looked like a good way to get hurt!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

4Crawler wrote:
Overall a really nice skating trail, but a few little gotchas:

Guessing those expansion joints are right at 75mm wide!



And this takes the cake!



I've contacted the trail manager about the deep grooves in the concrete under the Montague under crossing, will see what they have to say.  I waited a bit since that part of the trail is not officially open, but they have the lane striping on the trail now, so it is about as open as it is going to be Smile  Also took care to only mention "skaters" and kids on scooters and strollers with small wheels.

And got a reply right away, seems timing was just about right.  As the project is wrapping up and they have a bit of money remaining, those grooves may be able to be filled in.  As I suspected, the trail manager was not even aware of the issue, if you walk, ride a bike or as the trail maint. folks do, drive a truck or ATV up there, you would not even notice the grooves, you only notice them when you go over with small wheels!

Also saw a tweet (https://twitter.com/sanjosetrails):

"Guadalupe River Trail: Consultant on board to oversee Tasman Under-Xing improvements that elevate 3' - will post schedule soon."

So that is good news.  It was clear and dry last weekend.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:01 am    Post subject: San Tomas Aquino Creek Trail Temporary Detour starting 4/15 Reply with quote

The San Tomas Aquino Creek Trail will be temporarily detoured between Agnew Road and Tasman Drive for approximately 1 year starting April 15 and ending when the Stadium is open.

The detour is needed to ensure the safety of bicyclists, pedestrians, and construction workers. The construction activity in and around this portion of the San Tomas Aquino Creek Trail will include re-grading the Great America Theme Park Main Parking Lot, work related to Parking Lot lights and utilities, abutments and support for the 3 new bridges, and the rerouting of the Creek Trail around the new bridges.

Bicyclists will be rerouted via Agnew Road, Lakeshore Drive, Gianera Street, the VTA Great America Train Station Parking Lot, Stars & Stripes Drive, and service road/trail along the rear of the Tasman Parking Garage, and then back to the San Tomas Aquino Creek Trail.

Pedestrians will be rerouted via Agnew Road, Mission College Blvd, Great America Parkway past the Santa Clara Convention Center, and then back to the San Tomas Aquino Creek Trail.

Map of detour(s) below:
- http://santaclaraca.gov/index.asp...=2052&returnURL=%2findex.aspx

I was shocked by the 1 year estimated closure period!

One might ask if this were say Great America Pkwy. that was to be closed for construction, I doubt it would be closed for a year. They would probably do like they do on the Bay Bridge and cram all the work into a long weekend and be done with it.

But "it is just a bike lane", so take all the time you want.

Now, I wonder if the bike path rules will apply to the temporary route. For example I skate on that trail several times a week, legally. But according to city regulations, skating on city streets is not permitted. So am I going to be breaking the law if I skate the officially designated temporary route?  I guess I'll find out in a few weeks as this is my primary skating trail.

UPDATE (6/4/13)::
Have been riding the bypass now for a month or so.  There are decent sidewalks for much of it and the pavement is not too bad.  Have not had any police issues as of yet.  Ran by a few cop cars while on sidewalks and no attention was paid, likewise was on the paved bile lane then hopped up on the sidewalk just ahead of a cop car coming up from behind on Agnews Rd.  which seems to be fairly busy.  

Also found at the north end of the trail, if you cross over the Gold St. connector and turn left on Gold St. and ride the nice wide sidewalks north up to the end of the new pavement on the Guadalupe River Trail, you can then ride that trail (mostly down wind) back to 237 or farther south.  There is a slight risk of the 237 under crossing being flooded and in that case you either have to climb over the rocks on the side or ride back to Gold St.  But if dry, that under crossing is fairly decent to ride.  A bit rough but it is not too steep and you can get up about half way on the other side before having to push.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 9:46 am    Post subject: Iron Horse and CCC Reply with quote

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Iron Horse and Contra Costa Canal trails in the east bay look very promising:
- 4Crawler


   I ride the CCC every day and often hop on the Iron horse.

   Right at the intersection of the two if you take the CCC towards Martinez it is decent trail until Gregory Lane. The intersection there is massive and cars break the 45mph speed limit there a lot. Plus when I was there the crosswalk buttons were broken and just had to wait for enough cyclists to build up so we could all cross together. Also after that point the trail not only starts to get crooked but it also gets very hilly. The hills are so steep that they are absolutely strenuous to push over. And then after all that work maintaining your speed on the downhills and pushing/walking the uphills, the trail dumps you off on the side of a freeway.

    However if you take the CCC towards Concord it's very good pavement until Treat Blvd where the trail is smooth but cracked. Some of the cracks can even catch your kingpin if your not carefull. But if you watch where your going it is not very rough. There is a small piece of it near monument that is absolutely butter. The pavement there is so nice that it feels like you are going downhill in both directions. It is a short piece though. I haven't measured it but maybe it is long enough to do a cyber mile. The rest after that is not very cracked and its pretty smooth.

    I have never taken the iron horse from the intersection towards Martinez but i'm sure its good. From that intersection towards Walnut Creek the pavement is all good. It's never too rough or has any massive cracks. It passes over a bridge on Ygnacio road that has some large expansion joints but my 75mm wheels handle them no problem. It runs right past Downtown WC where there is a ton of shops and things to do. (My friends and i like to ride the 13 miles to San Francisco Creamery and order the kitchen sink - 8 softball sized scoops of very rich ice cream covered in 8 toppings - and then ride back home in pain Smile ) The trail is very good pavement with no hills all the way to San Ramon, That is as far as i have been. Along the way to San Ramon it passes through some very cute, very small downtowns and on Saturdays it runs right through a farmers market in Danville. I'm sure the trail is great past San Ramon it is a popular trail and is well maintained.

Also the cops out here are pretty cool. I ride a few blocks through neighborhood in the road an I pass cops all the time. Never been stopped. Also I have been garageing with friends in a government parking garage and the cops rolled by and asked what we were doing. We politely responded and they actually said it was okay for us to be doing that because the garage was public property.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ohmrider and I rode the Guadalupe Trail last Saturday and they have filled the half dozen wire grooves under the Montague undercrossing, so these are a thing of the past!!!



Wrote a thank you note to the San Jose trail manager and got this reply:

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Thanks for the report.  I'm glad that this repair was made - thanks for brining it to our attention.

Yves


Nice to have responsive folks like that working on the city trail network.  Wish it was like that in other cities.  I had not had a chance to skate that far south in a few months, so not sure when the grooves were filled.  Still no word on the Tasman under crossing work though as that is still a long slog on foot.

Ended up riding just short of 35 miles that day.  Did take the city street route back from the San Jose coliseum which is close to the trail.  Came north on Santa Clara/Alameda/El Camino and overall it is reasonably skateable.  San Jose has every other crosswalk area torn up with construction, so had to walk all those areas, but beyond that nice double wide sidewalks most of the way.  Makes a nice return leg as it is more sheltered from wind that the river trail.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

4Crawler wrote:
And this takes the cake!


Looking better for getting this last section of the Guadalupe River Trail trail skate-friendly.

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Guadalupe River-Tasman Under Crossing: Plans are at 95% with construction planned for summer 2014:




It was getting pretty late in the season for anything to happen this year as the winter rainy season is about to kick off and that section of trail will be underwater quite frequently until spring.

Getting closer:
07.FEB.2014: Guadalupe River Trail: Finalizing plans to elevate Tasman UnderXing by 3' and new pavement. Construct this summer.

07.MAR.2014: That under crossing was underwater last week from recent rains.  Project plans have been signed off, project out for bids, due 4/10/2014.  Still plans for construction this summer.

Will be sweet when that 1/4 mile hike a board section is gone.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems that we do at least have the topic of skateboard use on the agenda for the upcoming Mountain View Parks and Recreation Commission meeting on Nov. 13, if you look under:
"Item 6.2 - Parks and Open Space Plan" on the link below:
- http://laserfiche.mountainview.gov/WebLink/0/fol/63760/Row1.aspx

So I plan to attend the meeting and put in another public comment, mainly focusing on how the trail regulations should be more uniform from city to city with the growing linking of trails across city boundaries.  

And I'll also bring up how in San Jose, they built a bike path right next to an existing skateboard park:
- http://rhorii.com/bayareaparks/CoyoteCreekTrail/CoyCrkTrlNew.html



As you can see in the above photo, the bike path and skate park pavement actually touch and there are no fences or warning signs.  The park riders seem to stick to the park terrain and are uninterested in riding their park boards down the flat and boring bike path.  And there have been no reported issues between the park and trail users that I could find in a Google search back to when the trail was paved in early '09.  

If there is anyone in the south bay area that would also like to attend the meeting, let me know and I can send you details.

I posted meeting updates on this thread:
- http://pavedwave.myfastforum.org/ftopic2165-45.php
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Recently, the city of Santa Clara opened a new section of the San Tomas Aquino Creek trail that extends up to El Camino Real, about 0.4 miles from the previous end of the trail.  Nice pavement and it is lit at night, so might be fun for a run on a warm summer night.

4/8/14: Had a chance to ride that new trail segment tonight, unseasonably warm weather and just awesome.  Velvet smooth pavement, LED lights every 50' or so and nobody out, so had the trail all to myself.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 9:13 am    Post subject: I'll be in Roseville CA on the 11th & 12th Feb 2014 Reply with quote

I'd like to meet up for a session on one of the many trails in the Sacramento area.

Roger,
Maybe we could meet 1/2 way between SF & the Sacramento area. I'm also open to a night ride or early morning ride.

Looking forward to escaping the snow to get some riding in. I'm traveling on business. I'll need to work most of the 11th and the 12th should be free to go riding.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently the older portion of the Guadalupe River Trail has been repaved:


This is supposedly the section south of 880 down along the river.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2016 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With the recent trial period for skateboard access on the Mt. View off-street trails, it appears we may be getting some new pavement to ride.  It sounds like they are re-paving some of the older worn out pavement (at least 25 yrs. old!) and possibly paving (resurfacing?) some of the previously gravel section of the Bay Trail south and east possibly to the bridge behind Moffett Field.  Trail is closed until mid March, so can't see how much is getting paved until it re-opens.  Still a few miles of gravel connecting that to the pavement farther east at the Sunnyvale/Santa Clara border.

UPDATE: Rode up on the bike today and did not find the new pavement as far as I rode.  May be inside the actual park area.  The "resurfacing" is a decomposed granite, fairly hard and smooth (for now).  Might be able to push over it, but not pump-able.  Also, there is still dirt/gravel on either end of the new surfaced road.

Also, just noticed that the paved off-street bike lane now extends north from the end of the Coyote Creek Trail in Milpitas at Dixon Landing Road along Fremont Blvd.  This is great as that was an open segment of Bay Trail that required a many mile detour over busy freeway interchanges, etc.  Now you can stay to the west of 880 all the way up to the Dumbarton Bridge.  Although some of that is on regular streets, luckily most are in industrial areas and quite deserted on weekends:
https://www.google.com/maps/place...4550239,-121.9272696,16.38z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x808e2f19d347dee9:0xbe65611b22965c18!8m2!3d37.2456356!4d-121.766683!5m1!1e3


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Mt. View skateboard trial period: http://www.4crawler.com/Photos/Mi...d/MountainViewSkateboarding.shtml
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