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EW Superglider Pumping?
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LDPanda



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 7:45 pm    Post subject: EW Superglider Pumping? Reply with quote

So I just put together my EW Superglider pumping setup and it's not working out as well as I had hoped. I've got a Bennett 6.0 (wedged 10*) in front and Tracker RT-S 149 (dewedged 5*) in the back. While I realize the Superglider isnt an ideal LDP deck, I feel like I shouldnt be having so much trouble. Ive been pumping a S9 Bomb Hills deck on Gullwing Chargers without any trouble, so with the new gear, I wasnt expecting any difficulty. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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Hanael



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your bennett is probably a bit too wide.
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LDPanda



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

While Im now sure I should have bought the 5.0 instead, the trucks I learned to pump on (GW Chargers) are a full inch longer than the 6.0s I have now. I feel like Im missing the famous "diving" that Bennetts have a reputation for. Im not even close to getting wheel bite, even with Khiro whites as loose as theyll go (and at close to 200 lbs, this seems surprising). Would bigger wheels help? im running on 70mm nameless right now, but since i cant get wheelbite even when I try, Im thinking I should look into some bigger wheels. Again, any suggestions are much appreciated.
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LDPanda



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I tried putting the Bennett/Tracker combo on my Bomb Hills deck and it pumps great, so I can only assume the Superglider is a terrible pumper, worse than an s9. I hope Im wrong about this, Id really prefer to ride the superglider, but it might just end up being a dh/pushing board Sad If anyone has any idea how to improve the superglider's pumpability, lemme know.

ps. are there any retailers in WA that sell Khiro bushings, or do I just have to order online?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey I didn't even notice you were from Seattle until you mentioned WA!  

Gravity Sports in Renton is now carrying Khiros, and there's also a new skateshop on the north end of Lake Washington called MotionBoardshop, that might have the full Khiro bushing kit, but I don't know how many singles they carry.  

Might want to call Gravity first and ask what they've got on hand:

Gravity in Renton - ask for Dave or Mike
Gravity Sports
Call 425-255-1874
http://www.northwestskater.com/gravitysports.html

MotionBoardShop - ask for Trevor
17230 Bothell Way NE
Lake Forest Park WA 98155
206-779-3272

What you're probably experiencing on the Superglider is the dropped "kicknose" effect.   Basically there's a tradeoff-- for that lowered deck, you lose some of the ease of pumping power effortlessly into your turns, that you get otherwise from a topmount.  But still, you could get it pumping better with the right bushings dialed in, and a narrower hangar would also make a difference.   Hopefully I'll catch you down at Greenlake sometime!
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LDPanda



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey there, thanks for the great response, Ill have to check out gravity sports soon, I think thats near the cedar river trail too, might make a day of it. I was out at greenlake this morning and ran into Alan, man, the mermaid is even sexier in person. I usually skate Alki beach in the afternoons if youre ever in the area. Right now I have the Bennett/Tracker on my BH deck and it pumps better than ever, Ill have to wait for better bushings to try again on the superglider.
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LDPanda



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

UPDATE: After a lot of trial and error, a lot of sweat, and some help from Gravity Sports in Renton (great shop btw), I think I finally have the superglider dialed in. Seems it was a combination of bad bushings and some technique that was giving me problems. Id still say its a little harder to pump than my BH deck, but it looks a hundred times cooler so.... Smile Thanks again Paved for the tip about Gravity, it was an excellent shop with a great selection of longboard gear and very informative and friendly staff, Id suggest it to anyone in the area.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LDPanda wrote:
UPDATE: After a lot of trial and error, a lot of sweat, and some help from Gravity Sports in Renton (great shop btw), I think I finally have the superglider dialed in. Seems it was a combination of bad bushings and some technique that was giving me problems. Id still say its a little harder to pump than my BH deck, but it looks a hundred times cooler so.... Smile Thanks again Paved for the tip about Gravity, it was an excellent shop with a great selection of longboard gear and very informative and friendly staff, Id suggest it to anyone in the area.

bump
care to share your setup for the superglider?
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LDPanda



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure!

EW Superglider
Bennett 6.0 Front
Tracker RT-S 149mm rear
Big Zig Limes (inverted in front, regular in back)
Front Bushings: Khiro white barrel superglued to a white cone on bottom, khiro white barrel on top.
Back Bushings: Bennett stock red urethane (shorter) on bottom, blue khiro barrel on top.
Two 5degree wedges in front, One 5degree dewedge + 1/4" flat soft riser in back

Ive made one slight modification to the Bennett 6.0 up front, I wrapped two layers of gorilla tape around the kingpin leaving a few threads unwrapped up at the top. It seems to make my bushings fit a little tighter and reduce shredding.

Edited for clarity.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LDPanda wrote:
...Gravity, it was an excellent shop with a great selection of longboard gear and very informative and friendly staff, Id suggest it to anyone in the area.

great to hear that!     i usually call Motion now just because they're right in the 'hood, but they don't carry a lot of stuff that Gravity does.

and btw, that gorilla tape idea is great.   very simple and easy solution.


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