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Overnight LDP with a big backpack.........?
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timbo666



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:36 am    Post subject: Overnight LDP with a big backpack.........? Reply with quote

Has anyone done a long, LDP - as in with a tent and a big pack? Is it difficult to pump with a big pack?


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pavedwave



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check out this thread
http://pavedwave.myfastforum.org/about81.html

The most I usually pump with is a Camelbak.  Even when its full of water I consider too risky to my lower back.   For what you're thinking of I'd go with as much of the super lightweight high tech stuff  (tent and sleeping bag, basically)  as possible, and expect to pick up any heavier food items nearer the overnight destinations.   On the full-day excursions, I typically carry two water bottles, one in each hand -- which frees up the small backpack for energy food and light necessities.  

In the end, if I were to have to pack more than somewhere around 15-20lbs, I would just plan on pushing a lot more, especially gradual inclines.
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LDPanda



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This isnt a very helpful reply but maybe someone else will have more info on this. I remember seeing a guy with a skate trailer atached to his board. He was a pusher of course, but i imagine it could work for a pumper too. It had a pivoting bracket and atached to the back of his board to carry extra stuff for his trip across south america (i think, just vague recollection).

Edit: Bah, i found it : http://pavedwave.myfastforum.org/about272.html
Rob Thompson = beast.

As for heavy backpacks, i wouldnt advise it. Even my little camelpak with 1.5L water and tools/bushings/washers/etc. weighs down pretty heavy after a few miles. When ive loaded it down with food, its even thrown off my balance once or twice and caused some near falls.

If youre planning on a full day (or longer) unsupported journey, i would highly suggest spreading the weight around your body and keeping it as low as possible.
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pavedwave



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah Rob did the trip around the world, much of it with that trailer fashioned from his rollsrolls deck.    We yakked a bit online about it when he was asking about pumping... I think he was over in China at the time!    The trailer would definitely add some flavor to the ride, would be interesting to see how it worked out.

I also am planning to "go low" in next year's STP ride -- putting more stuff in the lower pockets of my cargo shorts, and yes, probably a "fanny pack."  The first two years of the STP I wore two pouches like that and NO backpack at all.   It actually works really well, and these days there are a lot more options for waist pouches that both hold water bottles and have huge pockets for storage.    Distribution is definitely a good thing, just try not to go overboard...

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timbo666



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies all.

I don't see a trailer working very well with pumping as the trailer might sway left and right? pushing is much more constant and no swaying left to right.

I'm definately planning the commute to work and I might try out a more figure hugging backpack.
With backpack, I can't ride anything without a waist-strap and i find a chest strap helps too. This is the case whether it's bike riding, skiing or skating.

The overnight trip might have to be done on my Dervish then. I've done a few good length trips on it with a pack before.

TP
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wafflesole



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hobo longboarding!!

http://skatefurther.skatefurther.net/hobo-longboarding/

Ben has been talking about the possibility of ldp with trailer, it's an interesting one that i'd like to see investigated. I wonder if the trailer would end up pushing you along a bit?
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skatersjourney



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVVPGjbXsbg

Sorry to put such a trivial vid in ...but I would sort of fear this happening!
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pavedwave



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

skatersjourney wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVVPGjbXsbg

Sorry to put such a trivial vid in ...but I would sort of fear this happening!

Not trivial at all, I think you're spot on with that vid... this could easily be an issue on hills!   I recall Rob blogging something about never going much more than 30-35mph, using foot and windbraking to slow down.  

I also wonder about the effect of drag this might have when pumping, trying to pull the extra weight along.   Derek and I used to pump 60" Flexdexes and when it came to even slight inclines, it made a big difference to dump that extra couple feet of board.

Here's an idea that might work on a topmount-- a few holes in the back and strap a (light) pack on??

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wafflesole



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm sure there was a trip last year with guys on dancers doing something similar; luggage on back.

i think they lasted about 6 hours before both took quite serious falls.
not sure how the hammock motion would affect the rear.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skate Across Utah - poor guys used Larry dancers with their kit strapped to the back. I've never seen such road rash. What started as a good idea turned into a nasty nightmare. Bad times...



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