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fuzzydeer · Joined: 01 Sep 2008 Posts: 66

How does the wheelbase measurements on the subsonic boards go? is it inside mount hole to inside mount hole? or is it front to front? or outside, to outside?

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Batalero · Joined: 01 Jan 2008 Posts: 33 Location: France

Paul, usually wheelbase is measured between inner holes on pumping boards
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Shaine · Joined: 08 Jun 2009 Posts: 33 Location: TriCities, WA

Being 185lbs myself and choosing the Bennett & Seismic rear options from Stoked I figured the Stiff Flex would be best for me. I may be having more of an issue because of my perception and experience rather than a technical one. Standing on this Roe Mermaid and bouncing on it my first reaction was "ah sh@# this is stiff!". I have been using a DIY set up that was entirely too flexy and had to stand right on the front truck, so going to the stiff Roe may be just a shocking difference. I moved the rear truck to the longest WB and it was a little more flex. Dropped my square to the ground I can bounce (not jump) the deck down 3/4" max. While pumping I can only feel it flexing when I drive hard with my rear foot so I figure I'm getting 3/4" to 1" of flexion. Does this sound about right? I'm not sure I'm experiencing this "pop" & I don't want to be missing out if I need lighter flex so I was hoping someone of my weight could give some feedback. Other then that, the set up as a whole is the easiest pumping I've experienced by far and is perfectly beautiful craftsmanship. Also I wouldn't hesitate to continue giving Stoked my business as I had a great experience with them.

pavedwave · Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 1120 Location: seattle wa usa

Great hearing the stuff from Paul and Greg about Seismic rears, I think it's one of the best energy returning trucks and totally fits the bill for setting up without breaking the bank. The rattling springs on the really tough terrain is the only downside IMHO. It's amazing how sometimes when you're first discovering the power from seismic rear, it'll actually "pitch" you forward when you didn't expect it. It feels like a turbo boost compared with other traditional trucks.

And always like to hear more flex impressions on the Roe. I think you'd enjoy the Medium, but you'll definitely learn to pump stronger on the one you've got. One thing I'd recommend is trying to move your stance a little farther back from the nose and tail sometimes to shake things up, getting your feet together closer and pumping from the 'center' of the board, where you'll get the most flex. That might also help you decide if you want to trade in some time down the road for a higher flex board. It's all good, I'm going to be moving to a Medium for a while again but I always end up going back to a Light.

Ian the Groove Worshipper · Joined: 03 Dec 2008 Posts: 79 Location: Largo, FL

Shaine - are you on the longest WB? If so, I would recommend drilling out another WB 1 inch in front of the front WB. This will give you a ton more flex, and you'll still have plenty of real estate for your front foot. The Pulse comes stock with this extra WB, but the Mermaid does not, though maybe the next version will.

I agree the Seismic is a superb rear truck. The Pivot Pin eliminates all slop. In a typical bushing truck (without spherical bearing), there is always slop/latency when changing directions, and at the extremes of turning they tend to give and cause the hanger to hit the KP (which often coincides with wheelbite). The Seismic Pivot Pin and Spherical trucks eliminate the hanger float and momentary loss of power transmission that occurs each time you change directions, making them transmit power (and road vibrations) more efficiently, and making it so that you can turn very deeply with linear response and no giving out at the extremes. The Seismic springs give the added bonus of amazing rebound. I have found that by using a Seismic it opens up many more wheel options, because they stick with all but the most greasy wheels.

Seismics are great, and in my opinion should replace the RT-S as the most recommended rear truck for beginners. I have found the RT-S traction to be very disappointing. If you prefer a bushing truck, a Randal style truck will give infinitely more traction than an RT-S (though it will shorten your wheelbase too).

I've been riding my Seismic with Purple springs, but that is just because it is on my board which is set up without compromise for Cyber Miles. By going softer, the board will pump and accelerate more effortlessly at lower speeds, with only a slightly lower top speed.

Shaine · Joined: 08 Jun 2009 Posts: 33 Location: TriCities, WA

I'm glad to hear the stance recommendation as I was always thinking "foot on the front truck" was preferable when pumping. I'll drop back a bit & experiment with stance. Yes, I am on the longest WB, which helps some, and was considering doing the front re-drill as I noticed you (Ian) or somebody had posted on that in an older thread. I have drill press access. Also I need to get green med. springs on the rear as I think the light yellows are robbing me a bit when I drive off my rear foot even after tensioning.

Roe Mermaid stiff, longest WB
front Bennett 5.0 +18degrees
rear Seismic 130 stable -5degrees
Lime Zags all around

Redline · Joined: 29 Aug 2008 Posts: 31 Location: S. Everett, WA

I've never used an RTs as I had a 130 Stable Seismic from the beginning.
I had Yellow Springs to start but now use Red ones tightened down. I gotta say I don't notice a whole lot of difference, if any at my 185lbs. However I am fairly new to pumping.
BTW, if your thinkng of getting a set of Green(medium) there only $10.95 shipped from TheLongboardStore, one of the few places I've been able to locate them.

Shaine · Joined: 08 Jun 2009 Posts: 33 Location: TriCities, WA

Thanks for the tip:

Med Green Springs
Stoked Price: $9.95 +s/h
The Longboard Store: $10.50 FREE ground shipping

Opentip.com: Sub-Total: $7.37
Shipping to US(48 States) (): $6.49
Handling fee: $5.00
Total: $18.86 Shocked

http://www.sneaks4sale.com/: $9.40 FREE shipping (I'd rather not support these giant discounters and would be leery as well)

Shaine · Joined: 08 Jun 2009 Posts: 33 Location: TriCities, WA

Got out the big square and T-square today and drilled a new front mount 1.25" further towards the nose than stock mount. I'm really feeling the 'pop' out of turns while pumping now Very Happy

So much of an improvement I over did it and now I'm feeling the pain Crying or Very sad

Oh well, it's all good! Rolling Eyes

Thanks Ian.