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Ian the Groove Worshipper · Joined: 03 Dec 2008 Posts: 79 Location: Largo, FL

I think that the Avenger Dee-lite may be your best Rayne deck option. To be honest, none of them that I just found on their website have enough front foot real estate to be ideal for LDP. You need to be able to get your front foot directly over the front axle, and if your toes and heels are hanging off the board, it will be uncomfortable and inefficient.

If you are bound to using one of those deck options, you may consider experimenting with reverse kingpin truck or a Carver CX up front, as they will move the axle rearward, thus your foot position will also move back a bit to where you'll have more real estate. This will make a huge difference in your comfort level.

I've never tried a Bennett in rear, but imagine that may be your biggest limiting factor at this point. Do you have any reverse kingpin trucks around? The Avenger has a 33" WB, so a reverse kingpin in rear would be a viable choice, given the extra WB at your disposal. I've found that reverse kingpin trucks get great traction, far better than an RTS. Wedge the kingpin to anywhere between 28-35 degrees and let us know how it goes.

If you'll be sticking with your current deck, I'd recommend a Seismic 155 in rear with Green or maybe even Purple springs, for a Reverse KP will shorten your WB too much. It sounds like your front bushings are very, very soft for a 6.0 hangar and your weight. I'd consider trying Khiro blue/blue on bottom. I'd also recommend trying 10 degrees, or even less up front if you want pure top end pumping speed.

81a Avilas should be excellent, and faster than your 70mm wheels.

14mph is a good place to start, actually quite impressive with your current setup. Let us know how what you do and how it works out. Having the GPS should be an invaluable tool in giving you some clear objective feedback as to how well your setup tweaks are working out for you.

fuzzydeer · Joined: 01 Sep 2008 Posts: 66

Maybe I'll set up my avenger deelit for LDP!

RiPPer · Joined: 13 Feb 2009 Posts: 53

stocago · Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Posts: 227

I weigh 150 and wouldn't want it any flexier. Next time around I'll get a medium.

RiPPer · Joined: 13 Feb 2009 Posts: 53

stocago · Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Posts: 227

And it's not that I don't like it, I love it! But I'm using the shorter wheelbase of the two and also using a Randal with the downhill plate to get a nicer snap. My stance is usually compact and I like my back foot in the middle of the deck. If I were to get the medium flex I could use the longer wheelbase and a Seismic and get the same pop.

pavedwave · Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 1120 Location: seattle wa usa

Greg this is really good feedback on your personal flex prefs, I'd like to add this to the Mermaid thread in Vendors. I know that my 165lbs is the "absolute ceiling" for the Light flex preference, that's why we changed the flex chart some months ago.

fuzzydeer · Joined: 01 Sep 2008 Posts: 66

has anyone ever played with have a 0 degree style truck? does that work?
I have my siemic truck now and its dialed with a 5 degree de-wedge (25 degree siesmic) I haven't tried it any other way. seems to work pretty good.
my board moves a lot faster wtih that truck in the rear. I got it up to 15.22 miles per hour and that wasn't my fastest run, I'm sure! But I had to have a seizure to do it!
I have my bennet wedged at 10 degrees in the front, I'm finding the rear green springs a little tight maybe too tight, but If I brought the truck down to 15 degrees it would probably get enough leverage to make it not so stiff. or I can go with a red coil at 30 degrees I figure. What do you guys think?
Should I change my front wedge? I really just want it to keep up with my casual push pace of 25 kph without having to works so hard and I would like to look less like a spaz.
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stocago · Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Posts: 227

Are the green springs already on minimal tension? If you already have the red springs, try those. Or instead, you could add a bit more dewedging, but I haven't experimented with more than 10*.

Since the front and back are tied in together, absolutely experiment with the front wedging or softer bushings. By adding 5* in front you may find that the back feels just right.

Try not to change more than one thing at a time.

How are you liking your Plasma wheels? Are they the preconed ones? What duro?

It may simply take a while to get used to the Seismic as a rear truck. Just give it some time. I just set up my Mermaid to be the ultimate hill climber with a 4.3 Bennett front and a 125 Randal rear and had a great session, but then took out my other deck that I loved all week, set up with a Seismic rear and purple springs and absolutely hated it. I could hardly pump it, as if I was in a straightjacket. The Seismic pushes you forward, instead of side to side. You really have to drive it with your back leg.

If you are still using 70mm wheels, try moving up to 75 or so. My mile times are usually 10 seconds faster that way.

fuzzydeer · Joined: 01 Sep 2008 Posts: 66

Yeah I upgraded to blue and white black op avila's WAY better for grip compared to my coned plasma (haha} the plasmas are pretty good though, like orangatangs but with a better suited lip for pumping.
But the 75mm avilas make the most sense for maintaining roll. if I were climbing more hills I might use new plasma's or zigzags.

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