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Pumping - I think I'm not using my rear leg...
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Moddos



Joined: 06 May 2009
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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2009 4:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like gluing the O cone and W barrel together + 2 degrees of angled riser (for a total of 17 degrees wedging in front) did the trick. I also got a helmet, which helps with the confidence Smile

After a bit of practice I'm also starting to learn different pumping styles. I still have trouble keeping up anything above ~5mph, but I hope I'll get there eventually. I'm also struggling with light inclines, since I can't reliably get the short pumps to work there (I can't maintain the necessary speed for pumping).
I'll try O-W-W and perhaps W-W-O to see whether those would work too, I feel like that might be even better.

About the wedging: There must be a post that already explains the different effect of more/less wedging, i.e., what 15 degrees vs 17 degrees vs 20 degrees would mean for pumping. Does anyone have a link to anything talking about that?
Edit: I found http://pavedwave.myfastforum.org/about469.html , but if there's anything more that is helpful for this, I'd be happy to find out Smile
(I didn't find any sufficiently long bolts yet to try adding another angled riser, but I'll play around with smaller/larger risers angles of what I use now).

Thanks for all the advice, everyone!


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LDPanda



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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2009 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

More wedging means the hangar moves farther will less pressure. Less wedging means the hangar takes more presssure to move as far.  Lots of wedging makes pumping at low speeds easier and helps with hill climbs, Very little wedging is good for downhill stability and high end speed. The guys who are really serious about their cyber mile times are using very little wedging, less than 10*. I use around 20* becuase the area i skate has lots of long slow hill climbs.
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Moddos



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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2009 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the explanation.

Judging entirely from what I read, it sounds like using the Bennett 4.3 instead of the 5.0 would have the a similar type of effect for pumping as increasing the wedging -- just roughly speaking; of course other factors would also make a difference (truck height, etc.).

Does that sound right?
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LDPanda



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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2009 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simmilar effect but different cause. Basically, if you are doing lots of hill climbs and are more concerned with efficiency and long distance than you are with speed i would go with the 4.3  

If youre looking for better speed or the area you live is very flat with very few hill climbs i would prolly go for the 5.0

if youre trying to set record times around your local high school's quarter mile track, the prevailing wisdom at the moment says go for the 6.0.

Its simmilar with wedging, more for distance and ease, less for speed and stability.

Just my 2c tho, theres still lots of experimentation left to do.
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PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2009 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know if you mentioned what wheels you're using, but if they're offset, as an experiment, try flipping them in front and see if that effects your pumping in a positive way, if it makes it easier. I would try this first before buying a 4.3.


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