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Pumper Pusher Beginner LDP setup......
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RiPPer



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:19 am    Post subject: Pumper Pusher Beginner LDP setup...... Reply with quote

So I can skate and I can pump but I'm a beginner to LDP.  I doubt that I will actually ever get up to any true long distances.  And more than likely my type of skating will be slightly more general with pumping, pushing, carving, ect.

So based in part on this statement from the gear page...

"Realize that shorter setups, such as those used in slalom, can be much easier to learn on, though it is not absolutely necessary to do so. These have wheelbases in the 17" to 22" range, are usually in the 8" to 9.5" widths, and are not always of the flexy variety."

I had the thought of using the SK8kings Chris Yandall deck for a medium distance pumper pusher all rounder.

It's a 23.25" wb which might be closer to 22 with skandal.  
35" length
9.75 width

Its flat and sort of like a lil brother to the Galac LDP in shape, wb and size.
It's basically a John Galac design from what I understand.  Yandall's skogging incorporates pumping along with his switch foot pushing technique.

I'm thinking it might be a good candidate for my purpose and also might be good for anyone looking to get into LDP without buying a high end deck and waiting weeks or months for it.

What do you think?

http://www.sk8kings.com/Merchant2...=SK8KINGS018&Category_Code=AH

http://blip.tv/file/1622297/




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RiPPer



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm just talking about the deck at this point.  They offer two flex's, stiff and medium.  I'm 175 and thinking medium.  I have some set up ideas but I'd like to hear your recommendations.  Thanks.  My other thought for the deck would be the Galac LDP, but I think I'd rather start by spending a lil less and I dont want to wait 7 weeks to get started.  I may get the Galac LDP in the future, so I'll want a set up I can transfer to that deck.  So I'll have everything but the deck when I upgrade.
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cappa



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:58 am    Post subject: wheelbase Reply with quote

Looks fun to me. I reckon, by the photo, you could drill the rear to get a longer wheelbase if needed.
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LDPanda



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If youre looking for a deck that can be pushed or pumped, well, you can pretty much pick any deck you want. You could grab a 60'' fatty from flexdex or an 30'' axe 1 from sk8kings or any of the loaded lineup or a $15 park board. Im not quite sure what advice youre looking for here. Will the yandal skogging deck be a decent comprimise between pushing and pumping? Sure, as good as any other top mount of simmilar size. I think you may want to focus more on what trucks you have rather than what deck. I think randal 125s would be a nice match for what youre looking to do, theyre low for easy pushing, stable at speed, and can be pumped reletively efficiently. Double bennetts (as shown in the picture) would be fine for skogging and pedestrian slalom but inefficient for pumping.
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model.citizen



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sector 9 Carbon Trylam is a good off-the-shelf board for pumping, slalom, carving, pushing (less so for pushing...as soon as you start running sensible wheels in the 70+ size the deck starts sitting reasonably high and less efficient for pushing).

top mount, good snappy flex, tho a little narrower in the nose than a true LDP board.
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pavedwave



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I second what Panda and MC are saying - the Sector9 Trylam is actually a great, undervalued performance deck for the money.  My buddy Patrick has one set up with R125 in back, Bennett up front and rips like crazy.
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Bullwings



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Landyachtz Mummy flipped upside down (so it has rocker instead of camber) works out very nicely.  the Rocker effectively does a decent amount of wedging for you so you don't have to riser so much, and it also has the added effect of cradling your feet, and it keeps you lower to the ground for easy pushing.

The only thing it's lacking is the room up front for really putting your foot over the front truck, but since it's not an LDP deck anyway, it makes the best compromise.

Also, the rocker shape make the flex perfect for my 145 lbs.  I found the cambered (right side up) shape had a flex that snapped too aggressively for me.  25.5" wheel base too puts it right at MDP i'd say.  Don't have to worry about wheel bite either with the cut outs.
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RiPPer



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LDPanda wrote:
If youre looking for a deck that can be pushed or pumped, well, you can pretty much pick any deck you want. You could grab a 60'' fatty from flexdex or an 30'' axe 1 from sk8kings or any of the loaded lineup or a $15 park board. Im not quite sure what advice youre looking for here. Will the yandal skogging deck be a decent comprimise between pushing and pumping? Sure, as good as any other top mount of simmilar size. I think you may want to focus more on what trucks you have rather than what deck. I think randal 125s would be a nice match for what youre looking to do, theyre low for easy pushing, stable at speed, and can be pumped reletively efficiently. Double bennetts (as shown in the picture) would be fine for skogging and pedestrian slalom but inefficient for pumping.


I like the size and shape of this deck.  I like the shorter wb for easy for pumping and the wide flat full shape and nose.

I'm thinking a skandal rear with a skennet front, lime big zigs.
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Ichi



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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2009 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I'm wondering did you eventually get this deck?
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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2009 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ichi wrote:
So I'm wondering did you eventually get this deck?


Yes I did.  I ordered it complete with a skandal rear and skennet front trucks and lime big zigs.

It pumps pretty well and is a nice cruiser.  It's pretty stiff and heavy though.  Interestingly in comes in medium and stiff flex, but with my almost 180 lbs it barely flexes.  The whole set up weighs about 10 lbs and I think the deck is significantly heavier than a Mermaid.  I think being heavy and stiff makes it harder to maintain momentum on flats and uphills, downhills its no problem.  Have to a lil careful with front foot placement and movement though or the front truck gets a bit twitchy.
Keeping the front foot pointing straight forward with my weight more over the rear of the board its fairly stable.

In the end I decided to stop fooling around with almost LDP set ups and just go for the real deal.  So two weeks ago I ordered a Mermaid from Stoked.  I'm going to use the same trucks and wheels, but I will play around with the wedging and bushings to dial it in.  I'm anxiously awaiting the arrival of the Mermaid.  Looking forward to having a real LDP deck.

I'll probably keep the Yandall deck and use it as smaller cruiser/pumper, maybe with a Seismic 130 and 4.3 Bennett and some smaller (66 to 73mm) wheels to make it a lil lower for more of push/pump compromise since I will have the Mermaid for a pump specific set up.


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