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pavedwave
Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 1120 Location: seattle wa usa
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stocago

Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Posts: 227
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Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 9:13 am Post subject: |
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| I've been testing the Surf-Rodz extensions for the last two weeks and just got back from another time-trial at the track. I did my third fastest mile, but was slightly disappointed. I was hoping that the extensions might be the magical ingredient that could take a second off each lap split, but I don't think they're working for me. Someone like Gunther that has the strength and power to unleash the potential of these things has to try them. I'm not done experimenting, because I'm sure I can continue to tweak the setup, but just like riding a bike, the top gear isn't necessarily the best/ fastest. The wind conditions were perfect, so I don't have any excuses. I just turned 47, so I feel like I'm racing father time! |
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egret
Joined: 18 Jun 2008 Posts: 84
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:16 am Post subject: |
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| Hi Stocago, you used the extensions on the 6.0? |
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stocago

Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Posts: 227
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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No, a few weeks back they were all out of the smaller extensions, so only the 70mm were available. I've been running them on a 4.3 hanger. It should measure 180mm, but it's actually wider. I narrowed the track by flipping the wheels.
Surprisingly, they don't take that much effort once you get going. I've been using them daily for almost two weeks and then for the last two days I went to a regular 6.0 and it's amazing how easy and carvy it is. |
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blake
Joined: 29 Sep 2008 Posts: 198 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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that gives me a good idea. would training on a wider axle hanger (say a 6) then when you do an ultra use your normal width (say a 5) then it should seem easier for the divie carvie pumps that really help in LDP. i am not sure if it would or it would just be weird switching hangers _________________ The concrete is our canvas, our wave, our playgound, our catalyst for growth. When you feel it, flow with it, live in the moment; and shred it like you'll never skate again, everytime. |
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SkateKi

Joined: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 36 Location: redmond washington
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Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 2:13 am Post subject: |
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congrats Marco!
stocago- what the hay are you talking about, racing father time? by the time we're in our 60's i'm sure there'll be carbon fiber bones and cellular regeneration nanocomputers pumping through our veins. _________________ Derek Munson
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stocago

Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Posts: 227
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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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I'm probably going to bore people with these stats/observations, but I did a couple of time trials today and was a bit surprised with the results. School was in session today, I couldn't use the track, so I went to an accurately measured mile straightaway on nice asphalt.
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=3255626
First, I did a 2-mile (out and back) on my track setup with a slightly longer (inch or less) wheelbase, wider hangers, stiffer bushings and springs. This setup felt tight, fast and responsive. Unfortunately, I didn't have the advantage of split times like I do at the track so I had no idea of how fast I was going. It was breezy so I had the benefit of a tail/cross wind on the way out, but had to fight it a bit on the way back. I hit the halfway in 3:27 and finished in 7:48.
After a 5-10 minute recovery I did it again with my everyday deck, so slightly shorter wheelbase/hangers. This setup felt turny and I didn't feel like I was able to put the power down as well. The wind conditions seemed identical and I went through the midway point one second slower. I was growing weary especially going against the wind, but didn't want to give up. My finish time was again one second slower.
This is more proof to me that wider hangers, considerably wider than 6.0 are not working for me. They don't seem to hurt, but are of no benefit for flatland pumping.
Derek, I'm curious if with your higher gear/windmill action the 180s could work for you.
Blake, using a 6.0 in training could be a great benefit. It's very easy to swap out the hangers, especially if you have extra wheels. I can't say that you'll do more miles in an ultra with a 5.0 after training with a 6.0, but it'll feel noticeably easier. Just keep in mind that I'm a flatlander and don't have to contend with many inclines, just occasional bridges and hills.
update 11/24: Did another 2M on the same course today in a personal best 7:43. This was with same setup I've been using lately that feels very fast, but haven't done a cyber mile with: slightly shorter wheelbase (one increment), navy blue springs with less dewedging and durians.
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