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LDPanda

Joined: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 418 Location: Seattle, WA
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Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 2:00 pm Post subject: Why no love? |
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So I went out for a really long sesh yesterday, the weather was unseasonably nice, i was well stretched and energetic, i had a great time. The only bad part of the whole trip was the two times i passed this punk biker and he had some disparaging remarks for me (ones i dont feel the need to repeat here). Now, it was a great sesh, i dont let the words of some stupid kid get me down, but it got me wondering: why dont ldpers enjoy the same respect as downhillers or even street skaters? Whats so wrong with what we do? Im not skuffing up curbs or grinding down rails, im not speeding around cars on a busy highway, why all the hate? Admittedly, i do get a few supporters out there, bikers who want to chat about the sport and are genuinely excited about it, but i get as many if not more who are rude and (like this kid) downright mean. Maybe some of you have had this happen? Any ideas why?
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scooterdad
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 69 Location: Eastern Shore, Maryland
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Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I've been lucky enough not to have this happen to me (yet), but I think people often have a natural tendency to dislike that which is unfamiliar. And it does look kind of goofy to the uninitiated.
I do notice that when I ride around on our bike path here, people give some really long, long looks, following me with their eyes for minutes at a time it seems. My wife tells me that's because I'm an older looking dude on a skateboard than what they're used to, or that I'm wearing a helmet, or something else. I think it's just because I look different doing what I am doing. Most people will probably think cool- that looks like something fun and different. Others will always react with negativity, thinking it looks stupid or lame or a waste of time. Those people may never be happy, so it's pretty easy not to get discouraged by them. There are more people that fall into the first category though. At least in my mind Those are the ones I try to surround myself with.
The others, well, there just isn't enough time on this earth to care too much what they think. |
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model.citizen
Joined: 19 Jan 2009 Posts: 62 Location: auckland, new zealand
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Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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we look geeky. not surf-soul-hippy-kewl, not hesh. geeky.
who cares.
we're the ones with the smile and stoke... |
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northcoast

Joined: 09 Sep 2008 Posts: 64
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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why no love? because we don't "look" cool. DH'ers have the mad speed and stormtrooper helmets to go with them; sliders have their spinny moves; street skaters have the flippity kicks and junk; even slalom has an element of excitement from the racing. but, LDP just has average dudes on goofy looking boards humping air and going down bike paths. i personally have gotten many odd looks, and a bunch of comments.
don't let it get you down, you're one less car on the road and one less hipster on a fixie  _________________
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jat.
Joined: 28 Jan 2008 Posts: 91 Location: Norway, the realm of crappy weather
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Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 4:35 am Post subject: |
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What ever man, I slide so I'm at least semi exciting
Haha. But jokes aside, I've gotten a more positive vibe from the people I've passed on my sessions. I've gotten my spanking hand gestures under control though so ... I might have been kind of uncool-ish at some point. =P _________________ Gawd |
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pavedwave
Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 1120 Location: seattle wa usa
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Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 7:09 am Post subject: |
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| scooterdad wrote: | ... I think people often have a natural tendency to dislike that which is unfamiliar. And it does look kind of goofy to the uninitiated.
.... Most people will probably think cool- that looks like something fun and different. Others will always react with negativity, thinking it looks stupid or lame or a waste of time. Those people may never be happy, so it's pretty easy not to get discouraged by them. There are more people that fall into the first category though. At least in my mind Those are the ones I try to surround myself with.
The others, well, there just isn't enough time on this earth to care too much what they think. |
This resonates with my experience these days. I get about 95% positive as far as feedback from bikers goes. Some things about the way some bikers ride and act on their vehicles still annoy me, and I could actually share quite a lot about negative experiences on the trail with them, but I try hard not to, giving them the benefit of the doubt-- at least for now. I'm also quite pro at looking right past or right through someone when I can sense their vibe is less than cool, and I don't have the time or desire to engage them at the moment.
In the past and on the LDP "how to" page, I've played up the point that we look a bit goofy. This is an oversimplification about how LDP looks to the rest of the world, and I left it there in part to encourage people to laugh at themselves when learning. It doesn't look any goofier than the DH guys bending over and grabbing both their cheeks, then staring into more of that as they round a corner.
I went to an LG street skate event in the Seattle Key Arena a few months ago-- and although I respect the time and dedication it takes to bust some of those moves, the street skating as a live event, was a huge yawn-fest. Tricks look great when executed successfully then edited into a rock video, but watching a 80% failure rate in person, and paying for it? As much as I love all facets of skateboarding, I just couldn't get into it. The halfpipe was 1000% more exciting visually, but I guess that's because I'm a lot more into flow.
Pumping a skateboard captures one of the most artistic elements of skateboarding -- surfing the green room, the endless turn. And when it flows, it really is an amazing sight. In fact, it looks downright cool at times. Sure, there are those special moments when we're cranking up a hill, or finding the right groove, when it's not picture perfect, but once you're locked in and feeling it, it does look other-worldly and people do respond. Just last Saturday I heard three cool things all from bikers -- one was at a stoplight - "that's a sick looking board", the next was from a passing biker as I was pumping up a gradual incline - "that's amazing", and the guy right behind him said "how the hell is that possible?" That stuff's great to hear. But even if they gave me nothing but grief, I'd keep smiling. |
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Belegnole

Joined: 23 Jul 2008 Posts: 86 Location: Appleton, Wisconsin
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Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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Unfortunately there always seems to be snobbish people about. I guess some people will always have to look down on others to boost their egos or make them feel better about the thousands they have spent on their particular hobby. I have always enjoyed even just the thought of not having to put a foot down while riding a skateboard even if it can look dorky.....and it can. _________________ No matter where you go, there you are.... |
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ZapZang

Joined: 17 Sep 2008 Posts: 32
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 7:59 am Post subject: |
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Gotta agree with what's been said - yeah we can look dorky - especially when learning - but it can't dampen my love given the huge, genuine smile I feel plastered across my face when I'm pumping down the trail.
When I was a kid I had a Ramp Rat - a huge Variflex plank with hard wheels - and when I'd ride down hills - trying to get some speed up by riding on the narrow strip of cement between the curb and the bumpy asphalt, I could feel that by snaking the front of the board back and forth I could ever-so-slightly propel myself faster than gravity pulled me.
I remember having awesome dreams, kinda like flying dreams, of being able to turn that tiny bit of self-propulsion into something very much like what I've now found myself able to do - so pumping is like living out a childhood dream for me.
Between that and how damn good it feels physically (working my whole body, flowing, breathing, blood and endorphins pumping - this is just about the ONLY 'workout' type activity I enjoy), it's a habit I'm quite comfortable enjoying, no matter how silly it may sometimes look, no matter what friends and strangers who don't get it might have to say.
The stoke can be shared, but it cannot be squashed. |
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wafflesole

Joined: 15 Apr 2008 Posts: 82
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Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 2:54 am Post subject: |
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| my first 'proper' board. A variflex ramp rat. |
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Alec
Joined: 11 Sep 2008 Posts: 45 Location: Woking, Surrey, U.K.
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Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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You think it's bad getting 'hate' from cyclists?
I could take that, it's the hate towards the whole LDPumping/LDPushing disciplines from other branches of skateboarding that I don't understand and that annoys me.
I pity the fools
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