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Grombiz Special Ops on GTCPLDP
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samhell



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:39 pm    Post subject: Grombiz Special Ops on GTCPLDP Reply with quote

I just hooked up with Ben from Grombiz and got a set of his
new Special Ops trucks. I think these are going to hold
great possibilities for LDP. I will be doing a full test and review
very, very, soon.. These trucks are beautiful and I think
I'm really going to dig these, the adjustment possibilities
are about as wide as you could want.
I'm running my Big Zigs inverted for narrower track width,
the axles are 135mm by themselves. With the wheels inverted
it's closer to a 125mm truck. I'll be giving my full thoughts.





Very Happy



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

these look promising John, looking forward to hearing more!

there's supposed to be a couple of these floating around the NW with a couple of the NWLB crew, I'm trying to get my hands on 'em over this winter break.

they look totally different from their first versions.   wicked.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I have been wondering with the adjustability of these, how well they would work for LDP. I had thought they might work well for a all around board if nothing else. Adjust for going down hills, then readjust for some pumping on the flats. No disassembly or shimming, just do it on the fly.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what i'm really curious about is the rebound-to-center mechanism...  are there bushings in all durometers that are easy to swap out?   i know the original ones seemed to rely more on a spring mechanism, these are quite different.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

James,
I will be testing these out this weeekend.
I'm healing up from a nasty cold, I wanted to go ride them today, but I can barely even walk straight today. Wink
I'll be doing a full review here and on silverfish and on my tech page.
The return to center on these is better than you'd think.
Having them setup with the narrow width and inverted Zigs
is going to be very responsive.
They are very close in width to a Bennett 4.3 with non inverted Big Zigs.
From what Ben (Grombiz) was saying, you can still run the springs
on these, you can even run them without bushings and just springs
if you want them to be liquidy loose..
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:50 am    Post subject: could it be? Reply with quote

could this really be just as good as a bennet tracker combo? I don't have my galac yet (still waiting patiently  Smile ), but In the area I live, a quick customization could be great for some of the steeper grades. and jsut think of the garage sessions...


...drool


p.s. they look damn sexy
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
could this really be just as good as a bennet tracker combo? I don't have my galac yet (still waiting patiently  Smile ), but In the area I live, a quick customization could be great for some of the steeper grades. and jsut think of the garage sessions...


...drool


p.s. they look damn sexy

Your board coming alng nicely.. All of your parts are in, including your Garver
ceramics... Smile
I'm not going to say as of now whethet these are better than Bennett/Trackers for LDP.. But.. I do think they are going to be whole other dimension. I havn't had the chance to really test them out yet. Once I do,
I will give my full report. But I do think they are going to be amazing.
Yeah, they sure are sexy... Wink
I ablsolutely love the way the look and feel...
And I think the ride will be right up there too..
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

samhell wrote:
I'm not going to say as of now whethet these are better than Bennett/Trackers for LDP.. But.. I do think they are going to be whole other dimension.

yeah, it would take some pretty rigorous testing to make the "better" claim.  especially in LDP where you're looking at long mileage and durability.  

pumping is one thing - Radikals pump insanely well - but holding up over the long haul is seriously key for the LDP tag  (that's where Radikals fail)

i'm really hopeful about how these ride.   and there should be a couple sets floating around up here as well, i'm trying to find 'em now!  

looking forward to seeing your impressions John, and congrats on kicking your cold just in time for the weekend   Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am eagerly awaiting the paved wave seal of approval on these as well. I have a Pulse 40 v2.0 on order. I have no clue how long it will take but I don't want to bug scott and it seems that the perfect trucks setup has yet to be invented. I was looking at the carver cx setup but then saw the pics of the destroyed bushings. Then these Grom Biz trucks hit. From what I am reading, LDP takes it toll on the components. If the grade 8 kings pins are failing on a regular basis with the wedged Bennetts, how will these hold up? What is their mechanically weakest part most prone to metal fatigue? How do they pump and feel? What is the return-center-mechanism? Thanks
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it may be a while before i get out on these  (foot of snow, and I'm fighting a cold as well)  so I'm still eagerly awaiting John's review!!

in my experience personally, i've not yet had a standard Bennett kingpin break.   the ones I busted were on the Randal-like trucks, Randals and Gullwing Cruisers.    note that I weigh 165, and the guys who busted their Bennett pins weighed a bit more.    but I was a bit perplexed on the reports of people breaking them after only a month or so of riding.   the failure point in their cases, not surprisingly, appears to be where the bolt is splined just under the hex head, right where the bolt comes through the baseplate.

my as-yet untested theory on eliminating the breakage is to replace the standard Bennett kingpin with a Grade8, putting the bolt up through the baseplate and holding the hex-head in place with JB-weld.   since I have never busted a Bennett pin, and have put literally thousands of miles on at least one of my front Bennetts, I'm really not going to bother with this test.   I'd have to have busted a couple myself to be motivated to do so, or for the test to have any merit.    my trust in the Bennetts really hasn't been shaken by the reports-- but I do think for heavier riders, who are putting in heavy miles, considering the grade8 modification could be worth it.  

for a variety of reasons I'm really looking forward to how well the Grombiz work!


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