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LDPanda · Joined: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 418 Location: Seattle, WA

So, I got a little impulsive this evening Embarassed

Ive wanted a backup pusher for ultraskates as well as to learn some 'freeride' type tricks on for a while now. Tonight i saw some good deals out there and decided to go for it, heres the new setup:

Kebbek Flushcut
Randal R-II 180 50*
83mm 75a flywheels

It might not be ideal but the price was right for me. Im at least looking forward to trying something new.

LDPanda · Joined: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 418 Location: Seattle, WA

wafflesole · Joined: 15 Apr 2008 Posts: 82

is that a kebbeck flushcut? never seen one before. looks like it had lots of plusses for a pusher. whats the length and width on the riding surface?

LDPanda · Joined: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 418 Location: Seattle, WA

Yeah, its a Kebbek JimZ Fluscut. Ill have to break out the measuring tape when i get home but its the same width as my Pulse with probably around 35" of usable foot space. I wouldnt suggest it for a taller person as the length feels a bit cramped for my tuck (at 5'10") but I LOVE the concave. Its perfectly flat on the bottom with nice progressive edges, not quite lunchtray concave, more sophisticated than that. At ten plys, it feels solid and FAST, not nearly as heavy as I thought it might be. The flushcut dropthru doesnt really offer any significant advantage over undercut flush (topmounted flush) except that it looks cool (imo). Its got a 1.2 inch drop, making it the same height off the ground as a demonseed (1 inch to match, .2 to make up for the flushcut) but becuase the trucks are mounted within the wood, theres less of the 'hammock' effect, imo.

The one thing im really dissapointed about is the stupid R-II hangars. I havent even spent an hour on this thing and i already bought some Paris hangars (this fluscut is CNC'd for r-II plates only). The new R-IIs are terrible, the bushing seat is oblong instead of round and cant accomidate ANY standard bushing. Let me say that again, the newest run of R-II cannot properly hold ANY standard bushings, not venoms, not abecs, not bennets, not khiros. I have tried everything (and i have a lot of bushings) and not one would fit properly in the seat without spilling out (other than the stock ones it came with). So i guess ill have to wait another week to get this up and running properly. Im a little frustrated by that but its raining here anyway.

Surf One · Joined: 05 Sep 2009 Posts: 13 Location: Spokane, WA

When I replaced the stock bushings on my R-II trucks with Khiros, I noticed that they didn't quite fit. Being new to this game I wondered about the 'bushing standard' if there is such a thing. Now I see there isn't. But to make them fit snugly I just sanded the sides until the bushings were also oblong. I've put well over 100 miles on them and they seem to be working fine. Is this an inappropriate solution?

LDPanda · Joined: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 418 Location: Seattle, WA

Not at all, its a perfectly reasonable solution. One could also regrind the hangar to properly accommodate standard bushings. There is somewhat of a bushing standard though, as I have never had a problem like this before with any other truck. While khiros and venoms and abecs differ in size somewhat, theyre all round and they generally fit the same trucks without any special modification. Even oddball bushings like tall bennetts, tracker stims, and JimZ's are round. no bushing im aware of is the shape of the bushing seat in this hangar though. I think its a case of poor quality control and trying to reinvent the wheel. Randal is notorious (to my understanding) for their poor quality control, hence why many people prefer paris for their more finished look. And this oddly shaped seat, i dont know where theyre coming from on that, i guess they feel like they have to do something new to justify the most recent price hike Rolling Eyes

LDPanda · Joined: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 418 Location: Seattle, WA

Ive got my pusher dialed for the ultra now. I was going for as low as possible (without railbite) while still being manueverable enough to avoid the children, joggers, dogs, etc. at Greenlake. Heres how it ended up.

Kebbek JimZ Fluscut
50* Prandals, flipped front and back
85mm 80a SpeedVents
89a ABEC barells bottom, sabre cones top (same front and back but tightened more in the back)

Its pretty darn manueverable for a double drop on flipped hangars. I wish the deck was maybe 2" longer but Ill deal. I shouldnt really need much stability as there are no hills to speak of at greenlake, im much more worried about plowing into some jogger that decides to cross the path without looking.

pavedwave · Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 1120 Location: seattle wa usa

Here's what's likely my main Ultraskate 8 pushing setup:

The main thing I've done since last time was put double soft wedges stacked on each other with another thin soft wedge in between, like a funky wedge sandwich -- this has helped reduce the vibrations of the carbon rolls significantly.

pavedwave · Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 1120 Location: seattle wa usa

More tinkering with a "G-Bomb RollsRolls" but I'm pretty sure this experiment is coming apart as fast as I put it together. The stress on the board is basically going to bust at the sharp transition points, I can see that already from just barely standing on it -- didn't even give it a push.

With the 101 wheels and risers (and the offset of the bracket) it bottomed out quickly, so I'd either have to move to more riser, stiffer bracket, or bigger wheels. But it's inherently a bad idea just because of the angles.

I do have another idea for adding shock absorption to this setup (without extending the wheelbase) but it will require some machining...

wafflesole · Joined: 15 Apr 2008 Posts: 82

that thing is INSANE!!!!!!!