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rodgon
Joined: 16 Jul 2008
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seconded on the STRs. they grip like nothing ive ridden before. they just will not slide out easy or you have to really really push them to slip. very nice wheel and fast. if they made it bigger it would be the best i think ( here i go hyping it up hahaha)
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Hanael
Joined: 08 Jul 2008
Posts: 71
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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| edp_swakakin wrote: | I know I’m late here but I’m choosing to ride this one out…….
But if I had to say something, “BZ 86a!!!. It’s what real men use.” JK
JP man!! What are you doing DDT-ing my only local LDP buddy? You know good LDP friends don’t grow on trees…..
" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDT_(professional_wrestling) "
Neverthess I’ll still walk into the shop and ask him what’s new and what do you think of it? I trust and value his opinion.
Hanael man I’m real sorry….I did a no show for the race. I feel extremely bad. Please forgive me. I support you guys. I’m very sorry about that. |
rofl.
no worries man. 
There will be another time.
| rodgon wrote: | | seconded on the STRs. they grip like nothing ive ridden before. they just will not slide out easy or you have to really really push them to slip. very nice wheel and fast. if they made it bigger it would be the best i think ( here i go hyping it up hahaha) |
What kind of scientific method did you use?
*ahem*
The STRs are actually quite drifty after awhile. drift / hookups are nicer than the 'tangs, but not as good as flys. |
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stocago
Joined: 14 Apr 2008
Posts: 227
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| Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Hanael wrote: | 76mm sballs can be sluggish at times.
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| edp_swakakin wrote: | But if I had to say something, “BZ 86a!!!. It’s what real men use.” JK
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That is my favorite combo. Orange BZs in front for speed and Superballs in back for grip (and smoother Seismic ST30 ride). It's the best of both worlds. The 83a 77mm Black Ops Vents are a nice blend/compromise. I'm planning some scientific testing within the next week or two. 
I'd like to ride the Loaded wheels, but I'm not ready to buy. |
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petary791
Joined: 11 Nov 2008
Posts: 52
Location: East Lansing and Grosse Pointe, MI
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| Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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Orangatangs have been working awesome on my Mosquito and Libido. Naturally the Libido is my slalom board and they've been gripping wonderfully, I'm just trying not to slide them. On my Mosquito it's weird because they drift when I want them to but when I'm pumping they stick really well. I'm almost afraid that one day something drastic is going to happen with them.  |
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pavedwave
Joined: 22 Oct 2007
Posts: 1120
Location: seattle wa usa
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| Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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| edp_swakakin wrote: | I know I’m late here but I’m choosing to ride this one out…….
But if I had to say something, “BZ 86a!!!. It’s what real men use.” JK
JP man!! What are you doing DDT-ing my only local LDP buddy? You know good LDP friends don’t grow on trees…..
" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDT_(professional_wrestling) "
Neverthess I’ll still walk into the shop and ask him what’s new and what do you think of it? I trust and value his opinion. |
Eric, the DDT thing cracked me up!! I'm always learning new stuff here, a little wrestling culture even
I really meant no offense toward Hanael, and I hope it wasn't taken.
I just want to clarify that all this 'scientific' stuff came up ONLY because there were claims made here a couple months or so ago that "Tangs were faster than Zigs", not that Tangs "felt" faster than Zigs. And I think it's pretty obvious surfing around most of my pages, that you'll find most of the slalom gang has found through experience that Zigs and Seismics are pretty much the two top contenders for wheels that pump speed and hold grip, and have been for the last decade. The Tangs come onto the playing field this year mainly in DH, and for tooling around on hills, and "dancing"...they're still not widely adopted by slalom racers, but have taken the longboarding world by storm -- which is awesome. I would always support successes like this that encourage the growth of the sport, and I don't like to be characterized as dissing Loaded -- because I honestly don't.
The Tangs have a very cool look, cool design, and they're perfectly great wheels. And I think threads that are critical of products can be just as good for their "promotion" sometimes.
I think this just piqued my interest because I was still interested in the original conversation we had, where we talked about putting these wheels to the real test-- not "me against another guy" but rather "oneself against oneself" meaning, you ride your Zigs for a true, timed mile, then change up, then time the Tangs for a true mile. We do this stuff all the time in slalom on the "short course" -- like 25-cone cyber slalom. Guys like Gesmer and Chaput thrive on feedback from tests like this.
Anyway its not all about speed, its not all about competition, in fact, most of my LDP experience is NON competitive and I like keeping it that way. But when it gets down to specific claims on speed of wheels, I simply want to hear what actually works "best." And rather than discourage opinions being spoken, I really just want to hear more.
I did find an informative post on Northwestlongboarding by some downhillers which really explains a lot about the Tangs. The drift and slide of the wheels is really the key reason why these downhillers like these wheels over Zigs, and at the same time, it confirms my belief why guys with more of a background in slalom might still stick to their ever-grippy Zigs.
Connor Harkey sez "i have the 4 prez on my drop through speedboard, and they are dope. I like them a bit more than bigzigs for my riding style because i like to do alot of pendies and such, and the otangs just felt smoother and with a more consistent and controlled slide/drift. IMO i think that the reflex formula is a bit grippier than the`orangatang formula when the wheels a broken in."
Gabe sez "I also like how the wheels slide smoothly and they don't have the high amount of friction while sliding that reflex formula does. What I mean by this is that when reflex wheels slide they feel like all they want to do is grip back up as fast as they can where as orangatangs are ok with being sideways for them pendys, standies, or any other sliding and they don't just want to grip back up as fast as they can."
http://www.northwestlongboarding....?id=JYhoRkzA&mv_arg=TOP102545 |
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Hanael
Joined: 08 Jul 2008
Posts: 71
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| Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 12:31 am Post subject: |
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None taken.
i've had worse stuff over teh interwebz, so all's fine.
Also, i'm saving up to get a set of sky blue 'vents....hopefully i can get 'em within couple of weeks.
...hopefully. |
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skatersjourney
Joined: 10 Sep 2008
Posts: 40
Location: Plymouth, UK
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I managed to get a set of orange and purple in heats before Dorney last month, kindly provided by Octane Sports, and I have to say I love them. I stuck purples on the front and oranges on the rear of my mermaid and I panted it along (that means I went really fast) - I never felt like I was going to slide out...perhaps I don't have the weight behind my pumps like guys, but I do give it some!
O-Tangs = Thumbs up!
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Barry
Joined: 19 Jul 2008
Posts: 101
Location: Middlesex, U.K. Near Heathrow Airport
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How Do All 
Normally I would not say anything about the matters of what is better than what or whatever as it is all down to personal preference and style.
I have 2 sets of lemon-lime BZ's (83a / 80a), 3 sets of 77mm speedvents black op's Translucent sky blue-purple (79a / 83a) an extra set of speed vents 77mm orange (75a) for when it gets too rough for the purples.
I have a pair of purple O'tangs, inheats 75mm (83a) and 3 pairs of 68mm hotspots black ops, orange, blue and purple (76a / 80a / 84a)
All I can say is that they all rock in their own way and I like to use them all at differnt times depending on how I feel and how they look with the boards.
If I had to choose just one set of wheels though I would have to take the 77mm speed vents, the reason is that for me they feel like they roll with less resistance and feel a little quicker on my set ups, and I use the word feel as that may be all it is just a feeling.
and cos I felt like it I rode my new board with orange vents on the back and purple inheats on the front today and it was great.
Take care,
Barry
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northcoast
Joined: 09 Sep 2008
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in an odd twist of fate, i'm actually quoted on muirsurf's site in the reviews for otangs...whereupon, i call them on their hype and say "THEY'RE NOT WORTH IT!!!"
anywho, back to pumping. had my superglider out with it's 2009 setup today. i got a little bit of wheelrub once, just enough to make me notice...and it left a cool black streak on the wheel ! otangs, to me, feel quite nice while pumping...as i stated in my previous post in this thread, they do feel "softer" and there seems to be more energy return than zigs...as in, you get more "pump" per pump.
i really enjoyed the feeling of otangs, but there were a couple issues i noticed. first one was the rough patches felt quite rough, but they held quite well; the same spot where i'd feel a little sketch on zigs, i felt fine on 'tangs. the second was how they seem to be wearing...they don't seem to break in as quickly as everybody says they do. a little 2 mile trip like i did today has cleanly broken in zigs, but not these otangs.
the official report from northcoast longboarding:
sticking with my review on silvercrash, they've got their advantages and disadvantages over zigs...in the long run, zigs and otangs just about even out. s9 race forms, on the other hand, just plain blow...to compare the three wheels, i'd rank zigs and otangs tied for first, with RF's taking (it) up the rear
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wafflesole
Joined: 15 Apr 2008
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i like my tangs. i skated the last cybermile on purple and orange.
this is what i think. It's not scientific in any way.
They seem 'softer than the duro states' but still roll the same. I'm going to try the cyber at dorney again on all purples this time ( i will have run 10k the day b4 so its not areal fair test)
also, mine are pure pushers. not even slightly broken in. I do hownver have aset on my slalom and they have lost their sheen....
on an aside. I'm also skating them just because of NZ. I was there for most of the testing, call adam a really close friend.
totally not scientific, but its what matters to me ( this wouldnt be the case if the wheels were shit - they aren't)
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