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northcoast

Joined: 09 Sep 2008 Posts: 64
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:13 am Post subject: thoughts on orangatangs? |
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well, i've read that otangs like to slip out when you're REALLY pushing a pump...but can anyone verify this?
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Belegnole

Joined: 23 Jul 2008 Posts: 86 Location: Appleton, Wisconsin
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:04 am Post subject: |
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| While I cannot personally verify it I have read quite a bit over at the Fish. Two things stand out in the conversations over there. One being that once they "break in" they slide very well. Two that they wear quickly....I have also heard that a number of people like them quite a bit for LDP. I know that Hanael used them for awhile...you might pm him and see what his final thoughts were. I'm curious as to what the current favorite wheels are myself. |
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northcoast

Joined: 09 Sep 2008 Posts: 64
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Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 1:06 am Post subject: |
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| after testing a little, comparing between otangs and zigs, seems like the otangs roll "smoother" but the zigs hold a lot more grip in the fray. case in point: pushing back from class one day on otangs, i found that they really felt good and planted while pushing, and they rolled farther per push over crappy pavement. but, when i had both of the wheels on a small, turny DH course, the zigs held their turning lines a LOT better and felt a LOT more in control during the turns. i also did a little reading on the fish, and it seemed like once you slide the 'tangs, it's hard to get them to grip again...and i've drifted mine a little, during the aforementioned testing. |
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Hanael
Joined: 08 Jul 2008 Posts: 71
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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i saw my name..
Yes, i love my 'tangs for LDP, better than bigzigs.
yes, i hate my 'tangs for LDP, because they cone too fast. way too fast.
After you drift these wheels, the weird wear pattern affects the ride a bit. You might feel your wheels grip at one time, and drifts at another time.
However, as for roll, these 'tangs roll way smoother & longer than bigzigs.
Tarantula STRs are other wheels you might wanna consider. |
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pavedwave
Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 1120 Location: seattle wa usa
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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:31 am Post subject: |
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| Hanael wrote: |
Yes, i love my 'tangs for LDP, better than bigzigs.
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However, as for roll, these 'tangs roll way smoother & longer than bigzigs.
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the first statement's opinion, that's all good~!
the second thing I'm not so sure, you said they wear faster, but they roll longer? anyhow, I'm still waiting for more cyber times
note that now we do have o-tangs on the Cyber mile page, Nat posted up from the UK!
http://home.comcast.net/~jampet99/rides/cyber.html
i'm definitely interested in a side by side, scientific time trial test now of BlackOps, Zigs, and O-tangs (has to be done by the same rider and would probably take several weeks...) who's got the cash flow for this  |
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Alec
Joined: 11 Sep 2008 Posts: 45 Location: Woking, Surrey, U.K.
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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:55 am Post subject: |
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| pavedwave wrote: |
i'm definitely interested in a side by side, scientific time trial test now of BlackOps, Zigs, and O-tangs (has to be done by the same rider and would probably take several weeks...) who's got the cash flow for this  |
Nat probably, although I don't think he's got all of them now he has in the past had all of those. |
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pavedwave
Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 1120 Location: seattle wa usa
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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:07 am Post subject: |
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yeah i got everything but the 'tangs. oh and "free time" too, whatever that is  |
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Hanael
Joined: 08 Jul 2008 Posts: 71
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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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| pavedwave wrote: | | Hanael wrote: |
Yes, i love my 'tangs for LDP, better than bigzigs.
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However, as for roll, these 'tangs roll way smoother & longer than bigzigs.
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the first statement's opinion, that's all good~!
the second thing I'm not so sure, you said they wear faster, but they roll longer? anyhow, I'm still waiting for more cyber times
note that now we do have o-tangs on the Cyber mile page, Nat posted up from the UK!
http://home.comcast.net/~jampet99/rides/cyber.html
i'm definitely interested in a side by side, scientific time trial test now of BlackOps, Zigs, and O-tangs (has to be done by the same rider and would probably take several weeks...) who's got the cash flow for this  |
oh.
yeah..
the cyber mile.
damnit. i forget about it.
As for roll speed, yes, they roll better than 'zigs, but they cone too fast, even for a 123lb rider like me. |
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pavedwave
Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 1120 Location: seattle wa usa
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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Hanael wrote: |
As for roll speed, yes, they roll better than 'zigs |
yeah, i just switched to Adidas, i was wearing New Balance for so long, now I'm walking and running a lot faster, and the babes are swarming everywhere I go. life is rough. i love the scientific method!
i'd really like to see how otangs perform, but i still haven't seen the slalom scene pick them up in any meaningful numbers, and these are the guys who are seriously focused on pumping speed and shaving literally milliseconds off their race times. usually I'll drop some dime after I hear real world results or "same-course, different wheel" impressions. and based on the limited DH race results I've seen (namely the 2nd place at MFOS this year) the tangs are comparable, but it would be far too early to call them significantly faster than Zigs or BlackOps for that matter. right now, otangs sell in the quantities they do, to the longboarding market, primarily based off Adam Colton videos, and I'm absolutely impressed with the stand up slides and crazy footwork that man's got locked down, but that showcase of skills doesn't convince me that the tangs are a faster racing wheel.
in the end I think it's just splitting hairs when it comes to getting out and pumping some miles for fun and for exercise. for most of the guys on places like SilverFish it's more important what color the wheels are and if it matches their decks "theme". I think that's a perfectly fine trail of logic to follow. buy what makes you happy. i'm just not convinced of wheel performance claims by what non-competitive teenage kids are sticking on their dervishes to carve and bomb hills.
Gary Fluitt's 1-1 comparison studies on Zigs vs. BlackOps are what convinced me to finally try the Ops out. and ads like this one are mysteriously motivating as well
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Hanael
Joined: 08 Jul 2008 Posts: 71
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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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lol.
How about if i say "It rolls better for me, compared to bigzigs"? If you really wanna do some scientific stuff, go ahead & try it. I'll do the scientific stuff later on, if i feel like doing it.
We're comparing them in LDP. I'm not gonna use the 'tangs for DH. I also not gonna pull the "...but k-rimes races on 'tangs too!".
If i wanna make my wheels match with the board, i'd pick STRs over 'tangs...which is what i'm using now. Red GTCPLDP with red/black STRs looks nice.
Also, I don't really follow SF's trend. I've tried 'tangs & zigs, and i like using 'tangs better than bigzigs for LDP. In the end, it's just matter of personal preference. You seem like you have something against Loaded, which is not my business.
i guess you don't really want to try it yourself..which is fine too.
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