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northcoast · Joined: 09 Sep 2008 Posts: 64

YES!
i've been fiending around for some 89a abec bushings forEVER!

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LDPanda · Joined: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 418 Location: Seattle, WA

FYI: Read the fine print, these 'compatable' bushings are a limited production run. Later this year Chaput will discontinue the 'compatable' shapes (i.e. the ones that fit most standard trucks) and will ONLY sell reflex bushings in the size/shape that fit his Liquid and Fyre line of trucks. Personally, Im not happy about that decision but it proves he is quite the businessman. Get people hooked on your product and then take it away and make them buy a much more expensive product. Makes sense from a business persepective but still kind of a dick move. His explanation has always been that he didnt want to improve other people's products with his bushings. I wonder if hell make his whole wheel line only fit custom 9mm bearings and axles now, that seems along the same business strategy. Rolling Eyes

stocago · Joined: 14 Apr 2008 Posts: 227

I just replaced one of my white Khiros with the new Abec11 74a and I just love it. It's meatier and bouncier. I hope these hold up better than the ones cut from wheels. I had to go from a flat washer to a cupped one because it was sliding around so much. It held up to a 20-miler no problem.

edited 5/17 for new info

LDPanda · Joined: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 418 Location: Seattle, WA

Just got some of the new Chaput abec bushings. I got barrels in 74a, 77a, and 89a plus a 80a tall cone for my slalom setup (which i wont be discussing here). Overall, i was a little disappointed. First off, they are not, as some have claimed, the perfect size for bennetts. They are the same dimensions as, if not a little bit smaller than, khiro barrels. Running two barrels will not work for a bennett, at least no better than two khiros would. I find the bushings dont hold their shape well and want to squish out of the bushing seat. They have amazing bounce but end up just sliding around instead. I havent tried gluing one to a small cone yet but thats probably something i will try in the future and see if it solves the problem. I tried the 89a in the bottom of my back truck and although it felt pretty nice (when i snugged it down hard) it was getting really deformed really fast, like within minutes. I moved it to he top of the back truck with a 90a paris/venom barrel on bottom and its working pretty well for now. I think the pink 77a would work well as a top bushing in front (i have an orange khiro there now) but i couldnt get it to stay in place. It would just squish out of the bushing seat and then get clamped on when i turned back (if that makes any sense).

I think they have a lot of potential but need different shapes. If the barrels were wider so that they fit the bushing seat better or if they were stim shaped i think they would work out a lot better.

randelpink03 · Joined: 20 Mar 2009 Posts: 24

Really??? Man I am in love with mine. Im rockin the 74a on the top with the 77 on the bottom and the fit (and ride) just awesome for me. The barrels I received are for sure larger than khiro and venom barrels and I have had no issues with them sliding out of the bushing seat. I am rocking 2 cupped washers for top and bottom, which may be why they dont slip for me. Also, after about 50-60 miles or so on them, I have no signs of wear or deformation. Thats crazy man, no idea why ours are so different...

RiPPer · Joined: 13 Feb 2009 Posts: 53

I wanted to get some pics for comparison before I started skating on these bushings. Both pictures show from left to right;

Khiro, Venom, Reflex

Khiro, Khiro, Venom, Reflex, Reflex

LDPanda · Joined: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 418 Location: Seattle, WA

Your photo evidence is pretty convincing, assuming those are all new, unused bushings, the reflex might be a hair taller than the khiros but i still think the outer diameter is smaller. I dont use cup washers anywhere in my setup so that may be a primary difference. Ill give it a try this weekend or something and see how it goes. I guess my main concern with the abecs is they feel greasy or oily, they slip around a lot in the bushing seat instead of being firmly planted.

Edit: i put a cup washer on top of the 89a barrel in the back and it felt really good. So far this is definitely my favorite of the abecs i got. Ill have to try some of the softies with cup washers tomorrow.

holios551 · Joined: 22 Mar 2009 Posts: 5 Location: Windsor,CA

I am also using the new abec bushings, green tall cone bottom and pink tall cone top. Installed originally with flat washers, and they did seem to slide out a bit. I went ahead and slapped on cup washers top and bottom, that seemed to cure the slippage. Although, the cup washers stiffened up the truck quite a bit, so now I went and removed the cups and put in nylon flat washers, nice and turny again. The slipping doesn't bother me too much, just have to see how these pan out over time.

Since you are using barrels maybe just use a larger washer, one that is maybe slightly larger than the diameter of the bushing. This may help contain the bushing into its seat. If you put on a large cup washer it would definitely remedy this, but it may stiffen up your truck.

I am still fresh and new to the art of pumping so my suggestions come with no real experience behind them. Along with that, I am rocking Randalls and not bennetts.
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egret · Joined: 18 Jun 2008 Posts: 84

I wish there was a way to try out bushings before purchasing. It's not just brand but hardness. I spent about 60 bucks on venoms to conclude I prefer khiros. So far I'm estimating about 30 bucks for reflexes with shipping. Maybe I can put the venoms up for a trade with reflexes.

saturdaysfiesta · Joined: 22 Oct 2008 Posts: 15 Location: Los Altos, CA

When I threw my pink barrels on my mini, they slipped around a lot. I then did what I do to all my bushings which is slide the bottom, top, and edges over some griptape for a a few seconds to remove that waxy layer that makes them slip.
after that, I had no slippage, just loose carvey bliss