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Options to bennett for front trucks?(Virage, Randal, Core..)
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wafflesole



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



graphite? orange?


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96fade



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mile High Skates is selling hybrid Ace 11's and 22's (Ace hangar with Core baseplate).  Has anyone tried these as a front truck on an LDP setup?  How much wedging would you use?  My guess is to use less wedging than for a Bennett, but I really have no idea.
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LDPanda



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive been planning to try those (the ace 11) it seems like a nice comprimise between a 4.3 hangar and a 5.0. I spent all my extra money on reflex bushing and wheels this month tho Sad If you end up trying them let us know how they work out, i for one would be really curious.
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model.citizen



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

96fade wrote:
Mile High Skates is selling hybrid Ace 11's and 22's (Ace hangar with Core baseplate).  Has anyone tried these as a front truck on an LDP setup?  How much wedging would you use?  My guess is to use less wedging than for a Bennett, but I really have no idea.


from what i understand of them, the higher Ace hanger allows the use of larger bushings, and also allows the hanger to tip further side-to-side.  
i'd doubt that it'll have anywhere near the "dive" of a Bennett, but i'd say you'll still need to wedge the front about the same.

pure speculation on my part though, based on what angles and such i can see on the pix of the truck.  some pool skaters swap to Core baseplates on their Indy trucks (usually when the Indy baseplate breaks), apparently it improves the turning...

it would be nice to have something "cheap" that mellows out the Bennett dive - would make bombing hills during an LDP session more stable and comfortable.
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96fade



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a set of hybrid Indy 215's and a set of ACE 00's on a mini that I love.  When I get a chance I'll use one the Ace hangars with a core baseplate.  It's going to be a bit narrow-  I think the Ace 00 hangars are 95mm, but maybe it would at least give me a feel for them.  I'll let you know if I try it.
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pavedwave



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stridey wrote:

I mention this as if your riding them in the rain, you may want to drop a little oil in there every now and again...certainly before laying up for  a while. .

I hope for a lot less rain riding, but i'll try the oil anyway since the trucks will be apart again in a few minutes!   I changed the Virages over to a slalom setup for the weekend and got a lot more people on them (down in Salem)  on a decently fast hill.   great times, everyone dug the feel and stability at speed.   the tight course was a bit too tight for the way I had these set up, but the board worked well even for the groms on the "big" course.

this weekend I gleaned a lot about the spherical.  last Saturday morning did a 15-mile blast out to a park and back on a perfectly dry trail -- except for about an hour into it, on the return, where the whole trail was a huge puddle from a morning sprinkler system. a minute after the puddle, the clicking started again.  just after that ride I took everything apart and washed the crud off for this weekend's LDP-to-slalom board swap.  especially some new findings around the spherical, pin, and hangar, which I'll go into later, I shot you some feedback on that michael.   the trucks are now around the 210 mile point so I'll be checking these areas with more frequency.

TS board on top, GS board on bottom.   great times on the hill yesterday!!

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blake



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I WANT THOSE BOARDS!!!!! MOSTLY THE TRUCKS BUT THE BOARDS WOULD BE NICE TOO
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model.citizen



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 1:25 pm    Post subject: my mutant truck "creation" Reply with quote

back to these hybrid truck ideas (eg Ace+Core), i replaced the trucks on my usual bowl board (39" gravity) with a mutant combo of an unbranded 169 hanger on a Grindking baseplate, with a stock (ie useless) Indy orange cone up top and a cup washer and large Bennett barrel at the botom.

result?  carve heaven.  the mutants turn almost as well (possibly just as well, i haven't really measured turn angles) as a set of 5.0 Bennetts, without the dive.

actually they turned so damn well i had to swap out the rear mutant back to a Tracker 6track to stop the back squirreling out so much.

i don't think i'll try them for LDP though, 169 feels too large, especially if paired with sideset wheels.

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oiledwonk



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

long time reader; first time poster. I just ordered the MHS hybrid 22 to replace a bennett 5.0. looking to escape the bennett dive and the kingpin issues. going to try khiro barrels and reflex bushings. I'll post my findings in a couple days.
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stocago



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking forward to your review. I've been curious about how it compares to the Bennett, as well as the Tracker RT-X. I think the MHS hybrids come with conical Sabre bushings that might feel great as is, but tinkering with bushings and dialing it in is so much fun.


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