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Ultraskate V - October 2008 - Skatefurther & Pavedwave
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skatersjourney



Joined: 10 Sep 2008
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Location: Plymouth, UK

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was considering a bell after my Bath-Bath experiences of late - I do however prefer to adopt a BBC's finest Inglieesh accent and give a "Ding, ding!" instead. It saves on weight Smile

I'm thinking I can't afford a GPS, so a lap counter will have to do. I'm going to steal my brothers clicky counter thing (like club doormen have) to do it that way. I'm an honest sort, there'll be no trouble here.



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pavedwave



Joined: 22 Oct 2007
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Location: seattle wa usa

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Barry that's amazing, you're clocking some nice mileage these days!   I was seriously stoked to see yours and Eric's notes about the laps around Dorney.   Sounds like an awesome crew over there.   Seems like everyone would be charting the smoother course, I have no idea what's what in terms of route or surface condition from those satellite shots -- but the skate pics I've seen so far look glorious.   Given that, it looks like a solid, round figure of 3 miles per lap?   That's pretty cool.  And kind of ironic given you all are using the far more intelligent metric system  Wink

Actually Laura, I was kicking around the idea of using a somewhat humorous, slightly obnoxious duck call to get attention of pedestrians --but my inline skater friend advised that the bicycle bell sound is more "universally recognizable" so I'd get faster reaction time.  Makes more practical sense, even though I'd still like to quack at people.   I use my voice now, but the reactions are haphazard, when people are lost in conversation.   And the footbraking sound never fails, but it sucks to lose momentum.  The crowds seem like another non-issue at heavenly Dorney!

As far as honesty in tracking miles, I trust we're all logging miles for our own personal bests, more than for world conquest.  This has always been my philosophy and intention.  Setting the first Ultra records was really nothing more than trying to get more people interested, and in the end if someone were now shooting for Ted's record 242, only made it to 241 then claimed 243, whoopee!  for them.   I've seen it happen before in another event, ostensibly to benefit a sponsor, and it's really pathetic.

Honestly achieving our goals, and knowing we've done everything to be accurate about it, is a very rewarding thing -- because we'll know deep down that it's "real" and we'll always have something to shoot for the next time.    I've been talking with people at work lately about this, because many want to know what exactly is so addicting to make us do this -- more than once??  Laughing
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Alec



Joined: 11 Sep 2008
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Location: Woking, Surrey, U.K.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pavedwave wrote:
  Given that, it looks like a solid, round figure of 3 miles per lap?   That's pretty cool.  And kind of ironic given you all are using the far more intelligent metric system  Wink


Actually we still use the imperial sytem for distance measurements over here, Miles are one of the last non-metric measurements in use. Oh apart from beer being sold by the Pint still of course.
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LD skater since 1971



Joined: 09 Jul 2008
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Location: Leucadia,California

PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pavewaved:
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It is laps around Green lake
242 / 2.85 = 84.9 laps
242 / 2.84 = 85.2 laps
242 / 2.80 = 86.4 lap


So I would do if I was able body like you  guys are do 90 or 96 laps or even better 100 laps to break the record.
Push up the record mileage basically you guys are becoming ultra marathoners Except on skateboards.

In the likes of the western states 100 mile race through the Sierra Nevada mountains or the Death valley to mount Whitney running races. The runner who do the death valley race they start hallucinating and stop signs start talking them. In a runner magazine article I read. I have read the same thing in the Bicycle race across america competors have the same experience.

 The race across America bicycle races of the 1970 's and 80's were great they were on wide world of sports. Then Lon Haldmen blew that record apart across the USA on bike and turned around went back.
Some people lost interest when they found out what biking animal Lon was.
I really wanted to do the race across america in my teenage years but not now with my ankles.
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Barry



Joined: 19 Jul 2008
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How Do All Wink

Cheers for the comments James, one thing of note is that the satelite images on google seem a little dated from what I have seen, and the southern side of the lake has another slimmer full length rowing lake and what looks like a lot of dirt and construction is now green grass or pavement.

Sod the bell get an air horn, that will make the buggers move Twisted Evil though as I found out when I bought one of those airzound horns years ago for my work bike, it make you more agressive and you start looking for oppertunities to use it, arter it broke from over use I became a much more chilled cyclist again.

I prefer to use miles to measure distance, my bikes have computers set on miles and I think in miles, feet and inches, but navigating in the mountains I use meters kilometers, and at work I use milimeters. yet most of the pipework I do is imperial.

If I am making anything I use metric and imperial measurements, so it may be 50mm x 75mm and 6 feet 9 inches long Confused

As for weights metric and imperial sometimes both at the sametime.
I was brought up using both so I can not make my mind up to use one or t'other so I mix and match what works best at the time.

Take care,
Barry Wink
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Winnersh



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Metric because of the rowers in this instance. However the Pint rules (but don't ask me what a Quart is....)
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Alec



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You must be about the same age as me then Barry. I think in metric and imperial as I was taught both at school

edit: forget that I've just seen how old you are over on skatefurther.  Embarassed

A lot younger than me.   Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's weird because I follow formula one and world rally series I play all my racing games in kilometers hour. I measure every thing in millimeters because it more accurate but I convert it to inch when I am posting. But I prefer metric system that they taught us back in 1970's because the USA was going to switch but we never did.  It so much easier than our standard system.
When I was stationed in Okinawa, Japan in my air force days the speed limit was 50 km/h that equals 31.06 miles per hour. What was cool was I could get around town faster on my bicycle or skateboard because of the slow speed and traffic jams. I also prefer driving on the left hand side of the road also. It took me awhile to get out of the mode when I returned to states.
I also really love my MAC because it has easy conversion tool built end to the calculator.
So any news on the San Diego Velodrome yet? If not I will do the silver strand on my new long board larry walkabout.
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Barry



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alec wrote:
You must be about the same age as me then Barry. I think in metric and imperial as I was taught both at school

edit: forget that I've just seen how old you are over on skatefurther.  Embarassed

A lot younger than me.   Rolling Eyes


Alec; You just made my day, I was thinking that I may have been the oldest on the Skatefuther Forum but now I know I am not Very Happy
On the other hand, age means nothing in todays society 13 year old school girls are acting like they are 31 and the more mature folk like us are running around and acting like we are 16  so don't worry about the age difference.

Talking of age today I reached the ripe old age of 38, though my knees feel like they are 70 Crying or Very sad Oh I just got a letter today as well from the hospital, I am going to see a specialist knee sugeon on the 30th, I wonder what he will have to say about me trying skate for 24 hours Wink

Take care,
Barry Wink
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pavedwave



Joined: 22 Oct 2007
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Location: seattle wa usa

PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Lon Haldeman story is awesome.  I always hope the accomplishments of these monsters who push the bar higher just encourage the 'rest of us' to go for personal bests, rather than discourage by making it seem unattainable.  What keeps my interest in this is just finding out what my own body's capable of.  

Definitely there can be pain along the way, but I find LDP is relatively low impact, and you can find ways to make it more so.  I have knee issues as well from falls and jumps 20 years ago snowboarding, and it sometimes resurfaces as one of those "walls" around the 75-100 mile mark.  For the knees I've found its a matter of changing stance every so often to refresh the muscles used and not get too repetitive.  Ankles would be trickier, I rely on them a lot for quickly pumping on smaller uphill bursts, I guess just locking the ankles and using more upper body motion would be one way to try minimizing motion.  But busting through some of the aches and pain thresholds can be a huge motivator, just as long as you know when to really quit.  One thing Ted really encouraged was to finish strong, and finish injury-free.  Typically my doctors have been supportive of this type of skateboarding after I explain the mechanics and aerobics of it.

Interesting about the metric system -- I was in grade school during Carter's reign, just after Ford signed us up for metric conversion, so I remember teachers trying to help us (as well as themselves) to convert -- man do I wish it would have happened.  It's far more intuitive, even our current president might be able to add by tens.

Btw I haven't heard anything new from Rodrigo on the SD velodrome, my guess is it would be a no-go, if it's anything like the Redmond vel up here... they just don't know what to make of us  Wink   On the other hand that silverstrand sounds like a great stretch!


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