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dmccoach



Joined: 07 Jul 2008
Posts: 41

PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:55 am    Post subject: Carving after LDP Reply with quote

Well, this forum looks lonely with no posts, so I thought I would break the ice.

Here are my comments:
First, I love the feeling of a successful, long, aggressive hill carve session.
Second, I am finding I equally enjoy it on really long boards - such as the Roggs 59" board (I have Avilias on it and it simply won't slide unless under extreme push)
Third, I find that after doing LDP for several days, my carving/sliding skills go dormant...

As an example, this week end, I did probably 15m LDP then last night, I jumped on my Drop Carve for my first run down our local hill (in about a week)...  Man, it was a little scary at first - but by the third run I was carving it on only 1/2 the road width to maintain control, but the first run was scary.

I guess I have no point, except that I wonder if any of you experience a little anxiety on the first coupla aggressive carve runs after LDPing for a long time...  (like that feeling at the top of a double black diamond on the first run).

Do LDP and Carving mix?


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VANILLA GUERILLA



Joined: 03 Jul 2008
Posts: 43
Location: chicago il

PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the opposite effect. LDPing has made me feel healthier and this in turn raises my confidence level on hills. But, I do agree with you in some aspects. Since LDPing, every board feels different for a second. Even my LDP deck. Then I find myself in a short while manhandling my various decks in ways I haven't before LDPing. It's helping me gain a closer relationship to my board. I used to ride the board. Now it feels like I put the board to work.
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edp_swakakin



Joined: 19 Apr 2008
Posts: 189

PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

VANILLA GUERILLA wrote:
I have the opposite effect. LDPing has made me feel healthier and this in turn raises my confidence level on hills. But, I do agree with you in some aspects. Since LDPing, every board feels different for a second. Even my LDP deck. Then I find myself in a short while manhandling my various decks in ways I haven't before LDPing. It's helping me gain a closer relationship to my board. I used to ride the board. Now it feels like I put the board to work.


I agree fully.....
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northcoast



Joined: 09 Sep 2008
Posts: 64

PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i agree with vanilla

it seems like LDP has really taught me to use carving to maintain speed on downhills, if that makes any sense.  you can use pumping to get up to speed, but once you're going too fast, you carve and sorta anti-pump to slow down
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kayakr



Joined: 19 Mar 2008
Posts: 35

PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 5:20 pm    Post subject: anticarve Reply with quote

Yeah with LDP I carve down some fairly steep and narrow trails with a aggressive, weight the nose, push sideways and down the hill which really shows you how to control speed.

My problem carving after LDP is that I hop onto a longish kracked skulls M1 with randals that has a 12' turn radius and literally fall down inside the min turn radius because I'm so used to being able to carve the board back undermyself.   Crying or Very sad   Owch.  I have to relearn the turn first and then lean part.

This board with equal truck angles, low deck and some length is nice for carving at speed and you can carve off speed using it's stability even though you can't turn too tight.  Walk back uphill is a pain though.  Beats walking around the neighborhood like all the other adults though.
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model.citizen



Joined: 19 Jan 2009
Posts: 62
Location: auckland, new zealand

PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

since riding LDP, i've been setting up my other longboards with much looser trucks, and with far more stability and confidence down hills than i ever had.

my main problem is going to the LDP deck after some decent time thrashing a bowl...getting used to the dive of the Bennett after riding and grinding Tracker 6-tracks takes a few minutes.

i've totally given up including a shortboard in a day's session when i've been riding longboards all day - sure fire method for me to eat concrete!  almost feels like jumping on a rollerskate Smile
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pavedwave



Joined: 22 Oct 2007
Posts: 1120
Location: seattle wa usa

PostPosted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everything like this comes full circle.   When I got back into skateboarding ten years ago, I was actually obsessed with carving and wanted the snowboarding experience on the street.   So the quiver around 2002 was completely carving-focused, and my first "LDP" deck was actually the Flexdex Pro60.    It was purely the shred of the carve that made me want to skate long distance.  As with snowboarding I wanted nothing more than to stay up on the hill all day, skip the long lazy lunches at the lodge and just eat on the chairlift between runs.    



Carving on the skateboard turned into pumping, and the LDP took over.  Even though endurance of LDP means conservation of energy and motion, I still enjoy the fast short rides just as much, slowing my flatland speed down by shredding hard and sliding the wheels with each pump and carve.    And now I'm feeling that buzz again to get more aggressive downhill carving runs in.  

I feel LDP and carving are intertwined to the very core, and every kind of riding you do feeds off the other.   This is the kind of image that keeps me shredding hills or flat...



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Shaine



Joined: 08 Jun 2009
Posts: 33
Location: TriCities, WA

PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2009 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That Sims with trucks is awesome!  My first longboard was a cut up Morrow Multipro from 1996.  It was a 170 foam core and ridiculously stiff, also had the metal plates under the top skin for mounting bindings (no inserts).  Most snowboard to longboard deck conversions yield a pretty floppy noodley thing.  But in this case I cut it down to a 42" deck right out of the center and the flex was like medium and perfect, with camber to boot.  Sadly I can't leave anything alone and tried to make it a drop through, it cracked big time.  I love hill carving far more than bombing runs.


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