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robotopdx
Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 8 Location: Salem OR
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 2:15 pm Post subject: Pushing records? |
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Who keeps track of pushing speed records. I know there is something about a record attempt at a cycle track? what is the current record for a flat 1000 meter?
Why do I keep asking questions?
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robotopdx
Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 8 Location: Salem OR
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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OK I just looked at the cyber mile section of the website. I should have looked a little more before posting. But aside from this site does any other body keep track of these stats? I was thinking that the IHPVA
International Human power vehicle association might be interested and they are a recognized international governing body. |
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wafflesole

Joined: 15 Apr 2008 Posts: 82
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Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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I'd be interested in this. I like to ldp, but i love flat out push racing. It appears that i have the 1 mile and 5 mile record. The only thing i can conclude from that is that no-body else pushes these distances.  |
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pavedwave
Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 1120 Location: seattle wa usa
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Posted: Sun May 17, 2009 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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Btw - the "Cyber Mile" doesn't discriminate. The rules state that a skateboard must be used, the course must be flat, and whether you pump or push or combine the two is entirely up to the skater. I expect riders will add in the description whether their attempt was all pump, all push, or both.
I can only conclude you have scared the pushers with your times Nat
I'm hoping to see Robin "The Leg" McGuirk and Dave Mitchell do this for that very reason... come on fellas! |
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fuzzydeer

Joined: 01 Sep 2008 Posts: 66
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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| I could do my time Although a mile is a short distance. I doubt the push racers would fare the best at such distances because 1 mile is a tiny sprint compared to the 16 mile(ish) courses we're all used to. |
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fuzzydeer

Joined: 01 Sep 2008 Posts: 66
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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I pushed 2.2 kph in 5:53 That includes a crash and I didn't get up very quickly.
that is around 3.65 minutes averaged over a mile... if my math is correct.
I need to do the cyber mile on my local velodrome, I bet I can do much better!
Is it true people are pulling 16.9 miles per hour doing LDP!?!? I'm not even close to doing that on my LDP board! |
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pavedwave
Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 1120 Location: seattle wa usa
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Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 7:19 am Post subject: |
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| fuzzydeer wrote: | | I could do my time Although a mile is a short distance. I doubt the push racers would fare the best at such distances because 1 mile is a tiny sprint compared to the 16 mile(ish) courses we're all used to. |
Actually I think one reason why the pump records still dominate the cyber mile is because of the level of fitness of people working up their flatland pump rides to 15-20 miles rides consistently.
Most of the pusher races I've seen in the Northwest in the 8--12 mile range (rarely do they get much longer) include a lot of gravity, which requires a whole different set of respectable skills, but not much aerobic capacity. Even a subtle amount of gravity makes a HUGE difference when measuring a short distance like a mile. The few guys that dominate the push race podium spots -- Robin McGuirk, Dave Mitchell, et al -- are the ones I think could do well on the mile.
The rest of the crowd will get a renewed perspective on speed when they find out that pushing 15mph on absolutely flatland course is not trivial.
To date, I've had people submit "push or pump or both" in their notes, but I've updated the Mile page to put that in its own column now.
If you can't find a loop track, check out the course specs, skate 2 measured miles A--B, B--A, and average! |
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fuzzydeer

Joined: 01 Sep 2008 Posts: 66
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Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 10:01 am Post subject: |
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I'm actualy pretty closely matched with robskey, he usually only beats me by a board length and he tells me I make him work harder than most push races. I also have a velodrome made of concrete (dose that count?] I could do a ciber mile for you in the next few weeks and then again after I've warmed up to the season.
I must say, I disagree with your theory slightly as to why pumpers fair better than pushers. Most skaters even on flat courses (which are in abundance where I come from] skate only short distances of a few miles every day where you LDPers and I might go for ten to 2 miles. I also run alot at 3.1-7 miles usually 4 times a week (thats the equivalent of 16 to 2O miles on a skateboard for sure. Infact I do many jaunts over 61 miles in a year.
I train my body for short endurance. whereas one mile is a sprint. The same reason a 5OOO meter race is not won by the same person who wins a 1OO meter dash. The problem here is that only endurance types frequent your site. I think people like douglas da silva from brasil would have the fastest time with only a weeks practice. maybe im wrong. if I am I should be able to beat my above estimated time by quite abit.
In fact In the past I have lost to robskey because he was better conditioned to the ten mile race we were doing where I was adjusted to do 7O to 12O miles in a go. This year I am focusing on my short track. haha well see what happens. Robs mental edge and race experience is unmatched.
I really need to get pumping s fast as I can push. That would be amazing!!!
I cant seem to get above 14mph and I need to work really hard to get there. I know I am as fit as the next guy, its likley a combination of poor technique and board setup.
(I pump like I'm doing tight slalom] |
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fuzzydeer

Joined: 01 Sep 2008 Posts: 66
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Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 10:07 am Post subject: |
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BTW this is Paul Kent I'm the Canadian push guy. I'm gaining experience trying to gain the skill (thats more importaint than fitness at this point) to beat Robin and Caspar. Caspar is from the east coast he used to be on the USA olympic cross country ski team and he now focuses on push races. They are the two most notorious pushers in north america. I've been able to hold my own against canadians but I have yet to go up agains caspar and robskey has always just beaten me by a small margin.
We need more people like them, to make the sport a serious competition. Sometimes I feel like I'm cheating when I show up to push races in bc because the other guys don't know anything about endurance sports where I used to be a runner. Thankfully Rob shows up for most of those to give me me a fair share of humility. |
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RiPPer
Joined: 13 Feb 2009 Posts: 53
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Posted: Sun May 24, 2009 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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| fuzzydeer wrote: | | I must say, I disagree with your theory slightly as to why pumpers fair better than pushers. |
I think it might be because the cyber mile is the brain child of JP and is promoted and recorded here on Pavedwave. I think this site understandably has a bit of a pump bias. We get more pumpers than pushers here, I'd imagine. If we had a more even representation of pushers and pumpers I'd expect to see the times of the best pumpers and pushers to be pretty close. I'm not sure, but the pushers might even surpass the best pumpers.....could be wrong on that. It remains to be seen.
The current cyber mile champ Derek Munson has a long distance running background as well, I believe. Even so his record was all pump, no push.
The most active skaters pursuing the cyber mile record right now seem to be Ian and stocago. They are rapidly approaching the record. I believe they only pump their cyber mile attempts.
Would be great to see you and Robin post some cyber mile times. Maybe try the push and pump and see whats faster for you.
I'm really excited to see someone break the 3 minute cyber skateboard mile mark.
The Three Minute Mile Challenge:
http://www.silverfishlongboarding...boarding/28391-3-minute-mile.html
Also check out the 'Cyber Mile Times' thread here on pavedwave and
the Cyber Mile Page.
http://home.comcast.net/~jampet99/rides/cyber.html
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