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lo-rez · Joined: 13 Jul 2008 Posts: 1

I'm glad I'm not the only one who's had this problem! So James, you'd recommend using the cone but modifying (probably the barrel) and then sticking the two together?

Thanks for the input guys.

And by the way, Camel, the Insect Dragonfly is really doing well. Mine is a stiff flex, which I believe to actually be more rigid than the flex 1 on my Dervish.

gldsndz · Joined: 19 Apr 2008 Posts: 44

I've also found that if you use the same color/duro on the cone and barrel, there is less slippage.

edp_swakakin · Joined: 19 Apr 2008 Posts: 189

Well after many more miles on this one bushing setup. Here are my results. The tube wear does not seem to be getting much worse than what it already is. I plan to be using this bushing quit a bit longer. It feels really good at this point. And when it looks a bit too warn I'll just flip it. The other side looks brand new.

egret · Joined: 18 Jun 2008 Posts: 84

first off, I still wish we could just get a kingpin threaded down just about a centimeter and a half or so down.

I tried JB Weld over the threads. I used a Popsicle stick to smooth it out as much as possible but the stuff settled even smoother on it's own. I got it down about a half inch past the threads. It cured leaving a nice glassy surface. Next time I'll clean the KP better and apply it thinner to just fill in the threads. The thickness I have does not leave enough clearance for the metal tipped khiro bushings. I had to bore out a cupped washer and use a regular khiro. The bushings are a little snug. No biggie.

I went out and pumped about 5 miles ad examined the bushings. No noticable wear so far. The JB Weld came off on the smooth shaft but not the threads. I didn't use a degreaser and didn't roughen the surface before applying the JBW.

I'll get more miles in before I give it a thumbs up but so far so good.

Belegnole · Joined: 23 Jul 2008 Posts: 86 Location: Appleton, Wisconsin

umm, just a thought and I don't know if it has been tried...

Find a LONG bolt that is only threaded for the first couple of inches. Cut it to the length you need and thread the portion you want....

geolemon · Joined: 06 Aug 2008 Posts: 21

"Grind King" used to make replacement kingpins back in the day, meant to be used on shortboards. They have an inverted kingpin with a very low profile, rounded head (allen key to adjust it) to provide extra clearance when doing things like smith grinds... So, the nut goes in the baseplate, just like with Randal R11 trucks.

Those kingpins were smooth all the way down the shaft, until you got to the last maybe 3/4" or so. Plus they were absolutely solid - I still have mine today, I've rigged them to work with a set of Tensor trucks on my shortboard. I think I bought them about 1991, 1992...

Now, I believe Grind King only makes complete trucks - but I could be wrong! It certainly would be worth checking out if they are still available (and the motherload find of the century to find some guy who bought a "lot" of obsolete kingpins on Ebay peddling them on Ebay for $1 Laughing

).

Here's another thought though:
The Grind King kingpins were probably indestructable partly due to higher strength steel - but probably also due to the increased effective diameter of having the solid, unthreaded kingpin.
Especially with the big-style street skateboarding of today (ollieing big staircases, handrails, etc), it would seem that a strong kingpin would definitely be a choice "upgrade item".

Aftermarket shortboard kingpin manufacturers probably already make a replacement kingpin that is like the Grind King in that respect, even if the Grind King isn't on the market anymore. right?

geolemon · Joined: 06 Aug 2008 Posts: 21

For example, look at this kingpin by shortboard truck company Krux:

That is solid and smooth, save for a half inch or so, it looks like.

Just an example - maybe there's aftermarket hope! Cool

LD skater since 1971 · Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:11 pm Post subject:

I just bought my first bennett front truck. I remember seeing the khiro bushing shredding problem. So The way I fixed the problem was I first used a inverted top track washer then the bennett large washer.
Then I had this thick heavy duty 3/8th inch electrical grade shrink wrap from when I made body board leashes.
So I cut to length and used my heat gun to shrink it on the king pin.
Then I put a large blue Khiro bushing, Then the truck and a large orange Khiro bushing with the stock large bushing washer.
I will keep you posted on how this works.
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Terry

Hanael · Joined: 08 Jul 2008 Posts: 71

we need pictarz~~~

edp_swakakin · Joined: 19 Apr 2008 Posts: 189

Awesome! Definitely keep us posted.