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Khiro Bushings Shredding - Solved
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camel



Joined: 22 Feb 2008
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Location: Atlanta - Sugar Hill, GA. 30518

PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, and hey, seriously good idea threading it onto the kp. My oranges look like hamburger right now. I gotta work on this as well.


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stocago



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess that boring out larger holes for both the hanger and bushings would be a big hassle. Is there a type of tape available that is more durable than electrical tape that could be wrapped around the kingpin?
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edp_swakakin



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey camel - stocago !!!

Thanks alot you all got me thinking even more.  Here is what I came up with.  I have yet to ride it but it looks promising.  Let me know what you all think.  The only major thing I had to do is Dremel the center of each bushing.  But it didn't take long at all.

I found an Aluminum tube that fits over the kingpin


Without bushings - checked the turn radius This lead me to believe there is enough clearance.



This is the Dremel tool I used to bore out the bushings - took about 3 min for each one.



Link


Here is how far I screwed down my kingpin


I can turn the wheel now much easier


Give me some time and I will report back to everyone.

(Update 18 mile 1st impression)

Much Better!!! - No visable damage to the bushings and only a slight wear to the tube.  If anything I could have bored the bushings less.  Making them a bit more snug on the tube.  It's not that the truck was too loose but I like the idea of having more bushings as long as it's not too tight on the edges of my pumps.


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Parson Adams



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eric,

Can you give the specs on the tubing and and bushing diameter?  It will save me some time from asking at Lowe's: Can I stick my Kingpin in your tubing?

Thanks for another great idea.
Jim
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edp_swakakin



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No problem Jim here ya go - and the tube should slide freely over the kingpin.  As for the bushing diameter I just kept checking it every so often to see when it would finally fit over the aluminum tube.  We will see how it holds up over the next couple of days. Smile

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camel



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am going to try this as well, but take the aluminum tube and cut it to fit just the bushing one for the top and combine the two bushings on one tube for the bottom. Too bad we can't get khiro bob to make a bennett bushing for the bottom.
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pavedwave



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dayum!   that's looking awesome Eric.    I think this echoes what camel was saying where it seems like the thinnest tube possible is what's going to really nail this.

the closest thing I've found to "bennett bushing for the bottom" is having Karrot from Silverfish make bennett-height bushings out of abec11 wheels.  i think the pinks and soft greens are the best I've tried so far.
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camel



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone tried the epoxy on the threads or JB Weld on the threads trick yet? I am getting ready to do it and wanted feedback if there is any yet. I have a new set of bushings ready to go.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pavedwave wrote:

the closest thing I've found to "bennett bushing for the bottom" is having Karrot from Silverfish make bennett-height bushings out of abec11 wheels.  i think the pinks and soft greens are the best I've tried so far.

I'd like to clarify something that's come up a number of times, and lo-rez just brought it up again.

Since the cone + barrel khiro is actually taller than the stock bennett bottom bushing...I often just mount the two, tighten down, and ride them long enough to squish down the cone.   Something's gotta give, and it's usually the cone that flattens out first.

But the best Khiro bushing mod IMHO is to take off a sliver of the cone or a sliver of the barrel, then stick the two together to match the height of the stock bennett bushing.   I think that sk8kings has been doing this on their skennett modded trucks.   You can either stack them, or use an adhesive such as Gorilla Glue - just not so much that it degrades/melts the urethane too much.  

I think when the bottom bushing(s) actually fits better, it might also help contribute to a longer lasting setup.
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camel



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you don't glue them, the barrel tends to blow out the side at the cap bushing.

I have used 2-Ton White Two Part epoxy to do this (I use this stuff for all kinds of things...). It has a little give in it so it is not as brittle as the Gorilla glue. Once you slice the bushing, be sure to rub both sides with some 150 or so grit sand paper for really good adhesion between the rubber and the "glue".

The lower bushing doesn't blast out after that.

If you slice the cap bushing it's a little too small in diameter. Slice the barrel to keep them the same diameter.

Guess I will just go ahead and fill the threads and report back since no one has tried it yet.

C


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