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MrJim

Which board?

In jan/feb I will go from Chiang Mai/Chiang Rai - Singapore. Now to my problem and that is which board I shall use.

I´ve been offer full sponsorship from Rollsrolls, Subsonicskateboards and Hackbrett. Hackbrett will make me a custom board if I want.
Rayne has been offering me 40% off on a dee-lite.

Anyone out there how can help me in which board I shall choose? Have someone been riding subsonics for long-distance?
Sheldon

I rode the Subsonic Raven 40 during the New Zealand trip. I used "risers" and slammed the board about an inch or so above the ground.

It performed wonderfully lasted the entire trip without incident. Scott makes great boards and my experience has always shown them to be soft enough that they absorb the road a bit, in contrast to the rolls which I borrowed from James and could not stand to ride after 50 miles on a smooth trail due to its affect on my knees and ankles. I am not sure if that is a problem only I have had or if others have experienced it too. I also have the Pulse which has dealt with more than its share of miles and punishment in all forms.

I know nothing of Hackbrett, of those four options. I would take Subsonic for my trip again, and a Rayne as second choice.

Has Scott mentioned any board in particular? Are you doing this trip self supported or with vehicle support?
MrJim

Sheldon wrote:
I rode the Subsonic Raven 40 during the New Zealand trip. I used "risers" and slammed the board about an inch or so above the ground.

It performed wonderfully lasted the entire trip without incident. Scott makes great boards and my experience has always shown them to be soft enough that they absorb the road a bit, in contrast to the rolls which I borrowed from James and could not stand to ride after 50 miles on a smooth trail due to its affect on my knees and ankles. I am not sure if that is a problem only I have had or if others have experienced it too. I also have the Pulse which has dealt with more than its share of miles and punishment in all forms.

I know nothing of Hackbrett, of those four options. I would take Subsonic for my trip again, and a Rayne as second choice.

Has Scott mentioned any board in particular? Are you doing this trip self supported or with vehicle support?


I´m going selt supported or my girlfriend is going to but she will be going by inlines and not by car.

Scott thought that I should go for an raven or an reflex?
Which one is the pulse, I can´t find it.
pavedwave

What Sheldon notes about the rollsrolls is true -- the all-carbon construction can be a bit harsh over the long haul.   The benefits are that its ultralight and water can't damage it, and the fenders keep you dry.    One other possible downside is that the deck is a little narrow, although you do get used to it.   I'm actually using mine in the next 24-hour ride assuming it will be wet at least some of the time -- but I'm currently putting SOFT risers under the trucks to try giving it just a little bit of shock absorbing.  



The Raven however, is low, light, has a wider platform for your feet.  And, it's made of wood -- its easier on your body as you're going over all kinds of harsh terrain.   New Zealand has a lot of truly horrible roads  (and some smooth ones)   from all I've heard from Sheldon.     The Raven is also more narrow and lighter than the Reflex -- seems like your best bet.



The Pulse is a topmount deck.  Personally I think that a cross-country trip can easily be done on a topmounted deck, and many actually are.   But, it does require a lot more time spent riding a topmount and training those muscles.   It also assumes you're going to use slightly smaller wheels.   Personally, I would do a lot of pumping as well as pushing on that kind of deck, and would have to make my backpack ULTRA-light as well.    I don't buy into the idea that a topmount is patently the "wrong" type of deck to ride cross-country, but I'm in the minority opinion on this one  (nothing new there!)  



Just make sure you're comfortable at faster speeds on the type of board you choose.  

I still think the Raven is the best fit of the choices you've mentioned so far.
MrJim

pavedwave wrote:
What Sheldon notes about the rollsrolls is true -- the all-carbon construction can be a bit harsh over the long haul.   The benefits are that its ultralight and water can't damage it, and the fenders keep you dry.    One other possible downside is that the deck is a little narrow, although you do get used to it.   I'm actually using mine in the next 24-hour ride assuming it will be wet at least some of the time -- but I'm currently putting SOFT risers under the trucks to try giving it just a little bit of shock absorbing.  



The Raven however, is low, light, has a wider platform for your feet.  And, it's made of wood -- its easier on your body as you're going over all kinds of harsh terrain.   New Zealand has a lot of truly horrible roads  (and some smooth ones)   from all I've heard from Sheldon.     The Raven is also more narrow and lighter than the Reflex -- seems like your best bet.



The Pulse is a topmount deck.  Personally I think that a cross-country trip can easily be done on a topmounted deck, and many actually are.   But, it does require a lot more time spent riding a topmount and training those muscles.   It also assumes you're going to use slightly smaller wheels.   Personally, I would do a lot of pumping as well as pushing on that kind of deck, and would have to make my backpack ULTRA-light as well.    I don't buy into the idea that a topmount is patently the "wrong" type of deck to ride cross-country, but I'm in the minority opinion on this one  (nothing new there!)  



Just make sure you're comfortable at faster speeds on the type of board you choose.  

I still think the Raven is the best fit of the choices you've mentioned so far.


If I choose to go with an rollrolls I will do it on a woody.

Scott told me If I want I can get The raven in a fiberglass top and bottom for durability and weather resistance.
pavedwave

Nice.  I haven't tested the woody, but sounds like a good possibility.   It still has the fenders, the low deck, and the cushion of wood - you'd add a little weight, and you wouldn't have that waterproof / bulletproof quality anymore, and with a slightly narrow deck.    I'd personally be more comfortable on faster hills on the shape of something like the raven.   Good luck sounds like you're almost there.
MrJim

pavedwave wrote:
Nice.  I haven't tested the woody, but sounds like a good possibility.   It still has the fenders, the low deck, and the cushion of wood - you'd add a little weight, and you wouldn't have that waterproof / bulletproof quality anymore, and with a slightly narrow deck.    I'd personally be more comfortable on faster hills on the shape of something like the raven.   Good luck sounds like you're almost there.


Raven sounds like a very nice board. I will talk more to Scott about it.

Yeah almost there, I have almost everything now, just bearings, computer, camera, backpack, shorts and shoes left, but it´t long time before I go so hopefully I get some sponsors for that to.
Sheldon

Awesome, the other plus to the Raven that I forgot to mention is it is also great for other types of riding. For a while it was set up as the driftiest board I have ever had. With the Fiber top and bottom it will be even better I'm pretty sure the one I rode was all wood and it with stood the heat, rain,  and rock gouges.
wafflesole

excellent advice sheldon! Basically gave the same reply on skatefurther but just said 'sheldon had.. and sheldon though...'

how are you mate?
MrJim

I talked to Hackbrett yesterday and this is what he said.

we dont build lowriders ourselves, we could propably get landyachtz to sponsor an evo or a dually or a spud or a switch. we could then make it light by replacing some of the wood with foam and carbon wrap it. we can make them even lighter than the carbon evo.

What do you guys think about that, is it a good idea or should I go for a raven or a rollsrolls woody?
pavedwave

http://customlongskates.com/produkte/hackbrett.php

Looking over the Hackbrett line and racing experience, seems like they would be entirely capable of doing a nice job on a "new" hybrid evo-foam type deck, although I might be wary of testing out something custom for a long ride like yours, just to maybe save a pound or two in weight.   I do love the shape of the Evo and own one, I never splurged for a carbon Evo because I heard it wasn't quite as ultra-light as it could be...just like your comments from Hackbrett suggest.  That makes sense because they make them stiff as possible for DH racing.

To me these all sound like good options, so this starts to become a question of whether you want to help promote one business over another, like if you or get a better "vibe" from the guy at Hackbrett or Rolls or Subsonic.

My first distance decks back in 2001-2002 were dropped decks from Subsonic  ("Curve" back then) and Rollsrolls, so we have a long history together, and I trust their stuff.

So my priorities on choice at the moment would be
1. raven - tried and true, light enough, and Scott is a great duuuude!
2. rolls woody - only if I was expecting more rain on the ride.  and expecting it to offer more comfort than the carbon.  this deck would be a complete "test" for me.  I'm not sure how the deck's concave feels... anyone else?  (Keith is in Africa right now?!!)
3. rolls carbon - with RUBBER risers/shockpads instead of hard plastic
4. hackbrett - mainly because I don't know them but still a contender because I love the Evo shape
MrJim

I haven´t decided yet, but if it will be a landy I will ride with a hybrid switch with foam and carbon. Anyone who´s ride this board?
MrJim

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