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Ultraskate V - October 2008 - Skatefurther & PavedwaveOctober 11th Weekend~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ YET ANOTHER 24-HOURS OF NON STOP SKATEBOARDING!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ NCDSA Sign Up page: http://www.ncdsa.com/contest_registration.asp?ContestID=398 Seattle weather: http://www.weather.com/outlook/re...98125?from=36hr_topnav_undeclared Skaters coming for a half hour, an hour, 2 hours, 4 hours, 12 hours, 19.5 hours, 23.99 hours, are more than welcome!! Please come along to skate for your personal goals and as support! Particularly the overnight support hours are always incredibly appreciated. Come back and visit again, as details unfold -- www.pavedwave.org www.skatefurther.com www.neednotollie.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
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| rodgon |
hell yeah!!!
sign me up. time to go talk to the people at the velodrome here in SD. or look for a better location with no heavy headwind. 150+ baby here i come! |
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| Sheldon |
And just maybe I'll come equipped with a board dedicated to efficient pumping...
First attempt - push on a rolls rolls for 50 miles in the rain. Remember I hate being wet and cold while exerting myself. Second - Pump on randal 125s for some where around 100 miles, much better, still not a full 24 though. Third (oct.2008)... fall asleep laying on my board while James pulls me behind him. Counts right? 
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| skatersjourney |
Consider me IN at Dorney. I have 30 days to prepare...who knows what is possible? I know what I'm capable of, but I have to admit to being a little nervous/excited at my first Ultraskate! | ||
| pavedwave |
Great to see you here Laura! We've been doing sessions around Greenlake and just keeping them a little more consistent leading up. Skaters surprise themselves on their personal goals, and no matter what comes, you reflect and learn each time. One really cool thing is often those who come "just" to support often wind up skating much farther than they'd imagined. Mental more than anything!
Sheldon if we can rig up a rollsrolls trailer I'll pull ya along. And I hear you on the rain...we'll be keeping a close watch in the final week. Rodrigo drop a line when you find a location! Maybe we can get Trevor and others on this one... |
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| rodgon |
im talking to the people from the velodrome in Balboa park and it seems like the optimum place to do it. hopefully it will happen there.
ill keep you posted though no prob. |
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| aschmidt |
rodgon- did you get the pm I sent you? | ||
| rodgon |
i just did.
once i figure out what going on with the velodrome people ill make sure to let you know. ^_^ |
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| Barry |
How Do Allm 
I am in for the whole 9 yards at Dorney, Well hopefuly a little more than 9 yards 
Really looking forward to it. I have one question though; how is your distance calculated? by GPS, a set measured route at the location or by some other means? Take care, Barry
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| LD skater since 1971 |
Rodgon
On the San Diego velodrome you might have to talk to the Bicycle club that controls the velodrome. Let me know when you will be doing this maybe I will push and do 20 mile plus. But that's about it for me with my ankles. |
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| pavedwave |
hey Barry our logistics when we included an end to end course, was to ride the full length beforehand prior, and mark the end points by GPS. the section we chose was an exact 25 miles, a round trip being 50. so we decided beforehand whether to ride that loop once (50) or twice (100) during the daytime, afterwhich everyone would head up to the Greenlake trail loop. for ultraskate V, we are going to spend the entire day on the Greenlake loop, for a variety of reasons. primarily because it's a lot easier to have people come and support us any time of day. our loop is published as being 2.8 miles, and we've been around it so many times using a GPS, coming out with a figure of about the same each time. so for those who are going low tech, I recommend they use a manual LAP COUNTER such as this: 
and for those who figure they're going to keep doing nutty things like this, I highly recommend getting a GPS as posted toward the bottom of this thread: http://pavedwave.myfastforum.org/about40.html personally, I use the Garmin Forerunner 201 or 101 for training, because the battery lasts 10-14 hours total. on the day of something like the Ultraskate, I'll use the 28-hour Garmin GPS60 because there's no need to switch batteries, just synch it up with fresh batteries and start a stopwatch session right at the start line, then don't do anything with it until the entire 24 hours is up. and, I'll be manually clicking laps as well, just to be sure the GPS didn't make any gross miscalculations. the only downside is the GPS60 is a little bulkier. on a loop track, an independent person counting laps at your "aid station" is best. it is pretty hard to find this person, or set of people, willing to stay and click reliably through the entire night and day, in real life. this is why I go with the double-strategy GPS plus lap counter. is the Dorney loop pretty close, maybe just a little longer than ours? and about 100x smoother? sure looks like butter from those pics of Erics!!
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| Barry |
How Do James & All
Thank you for the extra info James, Much appreciated. I think I will have to check out the battery life on my GPS's, I also like the idea of the lap counter, I have one for counting paces whilst navigating in bad weather, and having more than one system should help iron out any discrepencies at the end of such a long session. I will let you know what I go with after trying a few things out on Wednesday. I am not too sure about the length of the curuit at Dorney as Saturday was my first session there, oh and by the way it really is as smooth as butter but ten times more grippy
Take care, Barry
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| pavedwave |
Yeah we just need to decide on an "exact" figure to calculate our Greenlake loop, as I expect the majority of people will count laps rather than GPS.
Given we have skated our lake course so many times, I believe that number will be 2.85 miles. The GPS varies between 2.8 and 2.9 the majority of the time. That little hundreth of a mile can really add up, when it comes to the total outcome of the day, if one is relying on multiplying lap count by an average mile figure. So I've been trying to find the "most" accurate reading between what the parks department publishes (2.8 miles), and what we actually experience on the trail. Probably the most accurate way to gauge this, is to rent or hopefully borrow a surveyor's wheel, then walk the outermost edge of the trail once, then walk it once again on the innermost edge of the trail. It would be TOTAL GEEK-dom, but I do see other track people doing this quite often there, when getting ready for 10k--50k races. It looks like Dorney is almost exactly a 3 mile loop, interesting how close that is to ours. I found a pretty good existing mapping of it here: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=1678356 BUTTER indeed!!!! Damn I'm jealous... 
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| LD skater since 1971 |
Why not ride a bicycle around the lake with a odometer to see how far it around the lake.
I use my car the odometer mileage is pretty close. |
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| pavedwave |
Bike would be quicker, assuming that the odometer is calibrated just right.
I was doing some calculations after someone asked "in order to make 242 miles at Greenlake only, how many laps are required?" -- and it's interesting how that hundreth of a mile affects the laps needed to meet Ted's previous record, i.e., 242 / 2.85 = 84.9 laps 242 / 2.84 = 85.2 laps 242 / 2.80 = 86.4 laps I also pecked at this map application, "rode" Greenlake online a couple times, and it comes out closer to a 2.8-mile average. I think there could be a really slight corner-cutting effect when mapping the lines, but it's pretty consistent with everything else. http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=2265619 http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=2266275 Yeah....I realize this is all really nit-picky, and as long as we chose any of these figures we're already definitely in the ballpark. You'd think there were thousands of dollars riding on this or something?!
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| pavedwave |
I'm finally getting one of these for Greenlake, that place is nuts when it's nice out, and people lose their minds and wander all over the trail. But I really hope it'll be nice out.
http://skatersbell.com/ 
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| Barry |
How Do All
Nice Bell James
I went to Dorney this morning Gps and Lap counter at the ready, To start I ran a lap one way round and then the other to get an avarage distance, this was bearing in mind that I favour one side of the pavement so the track may be longer or shorter depending on the side of the track I skated. Contrary to you plotted map above James; I did not go around the back of the boat house, the pavemant here is rough like chip seal I guess, I opted to skate in front of the boat house across the smoother block paving. there was a light breeze from the north east corner of the lake, which slowed me up a little coming back towards the boat house. The distance acording to the gps was exactly 3 miles one way and something over 2.9 miles the other. All in all I did just over ten complete laps, a couple of which I used the much wider second strip of pavement running on the side of the lake with the 3 bridges, this has a gentle incline along its length. The Gps showed a total distance of 30.2 miles (just over) in a time of 2 hours and 50 minutes, I was super stoked as this was my first LDP training session. I doubt that I would be able to keep it up for the whole 24 hours though. I need to do some serious thinking about how to survive the distance. Take care, Barry
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| Winnersh |
HA! I need one of these when I'm shopping in my local supermarket! |
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| Alec |
My favoured route Barry, in front of the boathouse, wide path on the northern side of the lake. Looking forward to meeting you on 10/10 if not before. |
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| rodgon |
thanks ill make sure to try and do that. | ||
| skatersjourney |
I was considering a bell after my Bath-Bath experiences of late - I do however prefer to adopt a BBC's finest Inglieesh accent and give a "Ding, ding!" instead. It saves on weight
I'm thinking I can't afford a GPS, so a lap counter will have to do. I'm going to steal my brothers clicky counter thing (like club doormen have) to do it that way. I'm an honest sort, there'll be no trouble here. |
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| pavedwave |
Barry that's amazing, you're clocking some nice mileage these days! I was seriously stoked to see yours and Eric's notes about the laps around Dorney. Sounds like an awesome crew over there. Seems like everyone would be charting the smoother course, I have no idea what's what in terms of route or surface condition from those satellite shots -- but the skate pics I've seen so far look glorious. Given that, it looks like a solid, round figure of 3 miles per lap? That's pretty cool. And kind of ironic given you all are using the far more intelligent metric system
Actually Laura, I was kicking around the idea of using a somewhat humorous, slightly obnoxious duck call to get attention of pedestrians --but my inline skater friend advised that the bicycle bell sound is more "universally recognizable" so I'd get faster reaction time. Makes more practical sense, even though I'd still like to quack at people. I use my voice now, but the reactions are haphazard, when people are lost in conversation. And the footbraking sound never fails, but it sucks to lose momentum. The crowds seem like another non-issue at heavenly Dorney! As far as honesty in tracking miles, I trust we're all logging miles for our own personal bests, more than for world conquest. This has always been my philosophy and intention. Setting the first Ultra records was really nothing more than trying to get more people interested, and in the end if someone were now shooting for Ted's record 242, only made it to 241 then claimed 243, whoopee! for them. I've seen it happen before in another event, ostensibly to benefit a sponsor, and it's really pathetic. Honestly achieving our goals, and knowing we've done everything to be accurate about it, is a very rewarding thing -- because we'll know deep down that it's "real" and we'll always have something to shoot for the next time. I've been talking with people at work lately about this, because many want to know what exactly is so addicting to make us do this -- more than once??
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| Alec |
Actually we still use the imperial sytem for distance measurements over here, Miles are one of the last non-metric measurements in use. Oh apart from beer being sold by the Pint still of course. |
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| LD skater since 1971 |
pavewaved:
So I would do if I was able body like you guys are do 90 or 96 laps or even better 100 laps to break the record. Push up the record mileage basically you guys are becoming ultra marathoners Except on skateboards. In the likes of the western states 100 mile race through the Sierra Nevada mountains or the Death valley to mount Whitney running races. The runner who do the death valley race they start hallucinating and stop signs start talking them. In a runner magazine article I read. I have read the same thing in the Bicycle race across america competors have the same experience. The race across America bicycle races of the 1970 's and 80's were great they were on wide world of sports. Then Lon Haldmen blew that record apart across the USA on bike and turned around went back. Some people lost interest when they found out what biking animal Lon was. I really wanted to do the race across america in my teenage years but not now with my ankles. |
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| Barry |
How Do All
Cheers for the comments James, one thing of note is that the satelite images on google seem a little dated from what I have seen, and the southern side of the lake has another slimmer full length rowing lake and what looks like a lot of dirt and construction is now green grass or pavement. Sod the bell get an air horn, that will make the buggers move  though as I found out when I bought one of those airzound horns years ago for my work bike, it make you more agressive and you start looking for oppertunities to use it, arter it broke from over use I became a much more chilled cyclist again.
I prefer to use miles to measure distance, my bikes have computers set on miles and I think in miles, feet and inches, but navigating in the mountains I use meters kilometers, and at work I use milimeters. yet most of the pipework I do is imperial. If I am making anything I use metric and imperial measurements, so it may be 50mm x 75mm and 6 feet 9 inches long 
As for weights metric and imperial sometimes both at the sametime. I was brought up using both so I can not make my mind up to use one or t'other so I mix and match what works best at the time. Take care, Barry
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| Winnersh |
Metric because of the rowers in this instance. However the Pint rules (but don't ask me what a Quart is....) | ||
| Alec |
You must be about the same age as me then Barry. I think in metric and imperial as I was taught both at school
edit: forget that I've just seen how old you are over on skatefurther. 
A lot younger than me. 
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| LD skater since 1971 |
That's weird because I follow formula one and world rally series I play all my racing games in kilometers hour. I measure every thing in millimeters because it more accurate but I convert it to inch when I am posting. But I prefer metric system that they taught us back in 1970's because the USA was going to switch but we never did. It so much easier than our standard system.
When I was stationed in Okinawa, Japan in my air force days the speed limit was 50 km/h that equals 31.06 miles per hour. What was cool was I could get around town faster on my bicycle or skateboard because of the slow speed and traffic jams. I also prefer driving on the left hand side of the road also. It took me awhile to get out of the mode when I returned to states. I also really love my MAC because it has easy conversion tool built end to the calculator. So any news on the San Diego Velodrome yet? If not I will do the silver strand on my new long board larry walkabout. |
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| Barry |
Alec; You just made my day, I was thinking that I may have been the oldest on the Skatefuther Forum but now I know I am not
On the other hand, age means nothing in todays society 13 year old school girls are acting like they are 31 and the more mature folk like us are running around and acting like we are 16 so don't worry about the age difference. Talking of age today I reached the ripe old age of 38, though my knees feel like they are 70  Oh I just got a letter today as well from the hospital, I am going to see a specialist knee sugeon on the 30th, I wonder what he will have to say about me trying skate for 24 hours
Take care, Barry
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| pavedwave |
The Lon Haldeman story is awesome. I always hope the accomplishments of these monsters who push the bar higher just encourage the 'rest of us' to go for personal bests, rather than discourage by making it seem unattainable. What keeps my interest in this is just finding out what my own body's capable of.
Definitely there can be pain along the way, but I find LDP is relatively low impact, and you can find ways to make it more so. I have knee issues as well from falls and jumps 20 years ago snowboarding, and it sometimes resurfaces as one of those "walls" around the 75-100 mile mark. For the knees I've found its a matter of changing stance every so often to refresh the muscles used and not get too repetitive. Ankles would be trickier, I rely on them a lot for quickly pumping on smaller uphill bursts, I guess just locking the ankles and using more upper body motion would be one way to try minimizing motion. But busting through some of the aches and pain thresholds can be a huge motivator, just as long as you know when to really quit. One thing Ted really encouraged was to finish strong, and finish injury-free. Typically my doctors have been supportive of this type of skateboarding after I explain the mechanics and aerobics of it. Interesting about the metric system -- I was in grade school during Carter's reign, just after Ford signed us up for metric conversion, so I remember teachers trying to help us (as well as themselves) to convert -- man do I wish it would have happened. It's far more intuitive, even our current president might be able to add by tens. Btw I haven't heard anything new from Rodrigo on the SD velodrome, my guess is it would be a no-go, if it's anything like the Redmond vel up here... they just don't know what to make of us On the other hand that silverstrand sounds like a great stretch!
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| pavedwave |
Talk about a crazy cool development... Rob Thomson, just freshly finishing up the longest Worldwide solo distance skate ever completed, is going to take a couple days rest, then do this 24-hour skate along with a crew in New Zealand!
Check the details as they unfold here: http://www.neednotollie.com/node/242 |
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| rodgon |
yeah it seems like the velodrome in SD is a no go... sucks ass... but what are you gonna do... those dudes wont get back to me at all...
so it comes down to 2 different ways of doing it here in SD. either we make a small 5mile route to go over and over and over on. or we do a whole cross county ride thatll take us the time required. i might map out a cross section on coronado ( since its all flat) measure it out and then just use that as a trail. its mostly residential areas so no heavy traffic and lots of places to rest and setup camp. |
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| LD skater since 1971 |
Rodgon
I know you mentioned east lake trail part of San Diego. Does it have a trail that is lighted? Is their a west nile virus infected mosquitos being sprayed. Like they are doing at bataquito lagoon here in north San Diego county? If so then I will have to do the silver strand or my coast highway route runs on the sunday the 12th. I plan on going marathon distance 26 miles, 385 yards (41.195 km) is about how far my 46 year old racked up body will take me. |
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| rodgon |
i actually ran accross this. might be better than the strand if its flat. ill check it out and let you all know.
Location: NTC, Harbor Island, Downtown. Route: Pedestrian path along Harbor Blvd. Distance: 4 miles one-way. Terrain: Mostly flat. Pavement: Mostly smooth pedestrian path. Traffic: Heavy vehicular at the few road crossings. Moderate pedestrian on the paths on weekend afternoons. Last Updated: Sun Nov 4 19:18:56 PST 2001 Description: This is a nice tour of the San Diego bayfront. Across the bay you'll see battleships and carriers docked at the Naval Air Station on Coronado Island. You'll pass by the Lindbergh Field, the Star of India, and Seaport Village into downtown. Restrooms and water fountains are available all along the route. Directions: From the north take I-5 south and exit at Kettner Blvd. headed towards the airport. Turn right onto Laurel St. Fork right onto Harbor Blvd. Across from the airport, turn left onto Harbor Island and park in any of the bayside lots. From the south take I-5 north and exit at Hawthorn St. headed towards the airport. Turn right onto Harbor Blvd. Across from the airport, turn left onto Harbor Island and park in any of the bayside lots. There many other places to start from around the bay, but many of the lots closer to downtown charge a parking fee. 1 Harbor Island. You can skate from one tip of the island to the other along the bayside pedestrian path before heading inland. 2 Following the pedestrian path west along the bay side of Harbor Blvd. will take you to the western end of this route at Nimitz Blvd. On the north side of Harbor Blvd. is the site of the Naval Training Center. 3 Broadway Pier. Here you can catch a ferry over to point 1 of the Coronado Island skate. 4 Following the pedestrian path east and south along the bay side of Harbor Blvd. will take you past the Star of India to the southern end of this route. This is Seaport Village, a touristy shopping center. Caution: Skates are not allowed within the shopping center. From here you can head inland towards downtown and the Gaslamp District. 
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| LD skater since 1971 |
The harbor trial is a bust I have skated it a few times after ASR trade shows with a bunch of strret skater back in the late 80's and early 90's. We could get maybe a 1/4 mile down the walkway the cops came. We were able to talk are way out of the tickets back then.
But San Diego PD is hard core now around tourist areas not designated as bike trail only. They got Chris Yandall in pacific beach. I skated the board walk last Thursday I walked with my board from Garnet blvd. to the boardwalk then got on my board. Because I can't afford the fine or the time to fight it. |
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| rodgon |
a bust really? i skated it twice today and it seemed like the perfect place to skate ( along harbor drive not along the bay. ) along harbor theres a bike trail that leads all teh way to seaport village, and i went past some cops and they didnt care. its all nice smooth pavement except for a couple of rough spots, 2 real intersections you have to worry about stopping but other than that its butter. almost no wind because of teh obstruction of the buildings and its just nice as hell!
its been a while since then, and even though chris yandall got busted, i dont think that it was anything more than the cop being a dick and yandall being a little sarcastic or upfront. i liked it, ill be going to skate ther every other day from now till teh ultraskate, so if you want to join in let me know. and ive also always been amazing about talkking my way out of trouble, your in good hands hahaha. |
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| pavedwave |
i just set up a "global" sign up page:
http://www.ncdsa.com/contest_registration.asp?ContestID=398 check it out and let me know if you have any edits / suggestions!! |
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| LD skater since 1971 |
I did not know it was bike path. I was going to suggest the Solana Beach Rail trail 1.4 miles one way it has 3 foot tall lights every 25 feet along the path. The only crossing is Lomas santa fe rd..The only problem it is cement and it not a fast pump like asphalt.Plus the cement will get slippery at night from the nightly clouds/fog that roll in.
http://www.efgh.com/bike/redroute.htm#solanabeach I might have to check out the harbor trail. |
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| LD skater since 1971 |
I will be my doing my personable best mileage on Thursday or Sunday unofficially. Because I work on Friday I will not wear a helmet skating around on the street. Call me stupid but that just the way I have always skateboarded . | ||
| rodgon |
let me know how the solana beach trail is please. from what i read in the link its only a one way thing... or am i mistaken?
ill go skate with ya if you do it on sunday. ill be doing the ultraskate on friday but i can still do it on sunday with ya. |
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| LD skater since 1971 |
The trail is 10 to 12 foot wide side walk you go one way and turn around and do it agian.It really a hard to pump on because the cement is smooth. But I am only doing 26.5 miles during day light hours so I am going to map out something I can do. I know you have other goals like 100 mile plus.
I work in carmel mt. ranch so I might come down friday night and do a lap with you at the harbor and or to cheer you on. |
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| rodgon |
hehehe, sounds good, ill do that small run with you though, and isnt smooth road better for pumping? | ||
| rodgon |
so i have been going to the mission beach boardwalk this last week almost every day and even though the harbour trail is awesome, i think i might just settle and set my goals on the boarwalk. its a good 3 - 6 miles loop depending how far up and down you go and even though your skating teh same spot for a long time, since the people there are so varied you get easily distracted and fell like its a different run every time you go up and down. plus alot of places to rest, and also easy access back to my car, and people going to support me can play in the beach and stuff or make a bonfire and entertain themselves at night.
one thing i have to make sure of is that if i leave my car in teh parking lot that they wont give me a ticket. i know they lock cars in throughout the night ( and thats not really an issue, since ill be there anyways) but the whole ticket thing might be. also the boardwalk makes it more accesible for the people that only want to go for a couple of hours or miles, thus creating a little better environment around me. ive noticed that even with headwind on the BW its still easy to pump no problem and since its a shorter distance till i turn around than the silver strand it wont drain me nearly as much. plus heavy triaining this time i hope will help alot with it too. well anyways, thats my view on it so far, so anyone else thats interested in the SD ultraskate please feel free to contact me. remember its on OCT 10th |
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| LD skater since 1971 |
Park your car on mission ave. near hamels you can park overnight their.
Watch the cement at night it gets really slick around 9:00 to 10:00 P.M. stays that way till about 7:00 a.m. I know this because I was a local at mission beach for about 5 years almost every weekend we would skateboard from party house to party house.We also had a permeant hotel room at the Bahia Belle to crash at every weekend with this punk skater rake face Mikey. When I skated the board walk two weeks ago I noticed when your coming back from south mission beach north bound. The asphalt area of the board walk that meets the plunge cement part of the boardwalk. Their is a nasty chunk of asphalt missing were it meets the cement part of the board walk. It about 8" across by 4" wide and 3" deep it looks like it would take you out. So memorize were it at. |
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| rodgon |
i will, thanks! today i did 21.5 miles. | ||
| pavedwave |
This just in... apparently we have a PHANTOM RIDER on the 24-hour course. Eric Lowell, the man from Houston Texas who made it up to Seattle for two Ultraskates this year, is going to be out riding day and night in solidarity with this crew!!
Eric's true to form on this one, he's a low-key guy, humble AND charismatic getting everyone around jazzed with his presence and drive. 
So I'm not hearing anything until I finally ask him this weekend and I get this "BUT OF COURSE!!" kinda answer Stoked!
Eric's going to bump up the overall mileage to this effort, and who knows, maybe raise a few eyebrows to his local longboarding scene (as if he hasn't already.) In other "news" it's still a bit early to fully judge but my prediction is moving from Friday to Saturday on the Seattle/Greenlake ride, here's the link and the link to NCDSA (sign up Eric!!!) http://www.ncdsa.com/contest_registration.asp?ContestID=398 http://www.weather.com/weather/te...98125?from=36hr_topnav_undeclared |
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| edp_swakakin |
Hey thanks James - I'm all signed up and ready to go.
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| pavedwave |
haha you signed up before I could add Houston.
see, told ya he was fast! |
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| Hanael |
registered.
ha. i'll have some fun, while supporting eric doing the ultra. |
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| rodgon |
all ready to go here on the boardwalk , yandall might join in too. not sure about anyone else in SD willing to do teh 24 hrs though | ||
| pavedwave |
Moved the rassling between Yandall and I over to the "legal" section
http://pavedwave.myfastforum.org/about280.html Giving another shout-out to a very cool kid, Rain, who's organizing a Food Drive for the Washington homeless, through this organization! Hopefully Seattle locals will tell their friends, families, etc about this and encourage them to bring cans of food, especially protein foods like Tuna fish and Peanut butter, are in short supply and very much appreciated. They'll be longboarding the lake and collecting food in backpacks all along the way, unloading them in barrels near our aid station. Thanks Rain!! FOOD LIFELINE http://www.foodlifeline.com/index.html |
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| Winnersh |
Good luck for tomorrow to anyone who is supporting, pumping, or pushing. Here in the UK, we are experiencing an unusually good spell of weather with overnight temp of 50F and daytime of 66F with a 9mph wind moving accross the lake. I couldn't choose better weather for this.
Have a great time, and thank you James. |
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| bluebugbuster |
Hey guys. Good luck and godspeed on the trails tomorrow. Hope you all have a great skate, I'll be cheering for you on the sidelines. | ||
| rodgon |
I just aquired an oldie GPS and am stoked as one possibly can to use it tomorrow morning. im sooooo hyper i cant sleep. hahaha.
list... BOARD: -Pumping Deck: Galac LDP Wheels: Big zigs 80a Trucks: 5.0 bennet mod 129rts extra: custom toe stop -Pushing Deck: NightsSkateboard dropthrough Wheels: 70mm 78a neversummer Trucks: Black randall 180s GEAR: Music: Ipod video fully charged Hydration: Camelpack full o the gatorade Nourishment: Slimfast meal bars/ granola bars Distance Tracking: Lowrance GlobalNAv212 ( its a biggie... ) Location: San Diego, Mission Beach/ PB Boardwalk 10am Oct 10th-11th |
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| sleeveless |
I'm going to put in some mileage out at Lake Murray here in San Diego. I went for a late afternoon ride there today (Thursday) and really liked it. It has nice rolling terrain. None of the hills is too steep and I got enough speed to pump back up most of them. It's just a bit over 3 miles in each direction for a total of just over 6 miles out and back. I'll be riding my new Galac LDP and eating PB&Js. I'll post my results. Good luck to everyone! | ||
| Barry |
How Do All
Best wishes and good luck for today. Skate safe and far. Take care, Barry
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| pavedwave |
Thanks Keith, Barry, Eric and Hanael, the same!
Sleeveless, awesome, great having you on. Rodrigo you're only a couple hours from the start man!! I understand the sleep thing all too well, hehe. All the best. Go mellow, go far... 41 signed up, that's nuts! http://www.ncdsa.com/contest_registration.asp?ContestID=398 |
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| pavedwave |
Just got this text from the UK:
"We got booted out. End. A strategic rethink is needed..." i guess Dorney park shut them down at midnight, 4 hours into it. Bollocks! then half an hour later... "We start at 8 AM. Bring on the 10-hour challenge!" Brilliant!! And on the U.S. side... Eric Lowell was amped, so he kicked off his ride in Houston at 6 p.m. -- going for 200 miles or bust! And who knows, he's near a popo station so there might be a bust
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| sleeveless |
I met fellow skaters John and Thane out at Lake Murray at noon yesterday. John and I were on our Galac LDPs and Thane was riding a custom creation of his own making. We managed to skate 25 miles before calling it quits. The Lake Murray path is 5.6 miles out and back. The terrain is a nice mix of flats and rolling ups and downs. It was the ups that slowed our progress. I'm sure we could have doubled our milage with a flatter course. But, the speed we picked up skating down the little hills sure made the ride fun. None of us pushed too hard as we had done no training for the ride. We talked and enjoyed the sites of the lake and surrounding terrain. We got a lot of interesting looks from others on the path. My favorite comment was the kid who asked, "What kind of skateboards are those Mom?" She replied that she didn't know. LDP FTW! | ||
| rodgon |
107 miles but i had to stop after a dude in a bicycle hit me ( late at night and he had no reflectives or lights on him... dumbass...) when i was going fast downhill after relocating to eastlake again, tried to go for a bit more but something got pulled on the back of my leg ( nothing mayor just very annoying)
at least i broke the triple digits this time, need to train harder for the next one. so the total mileage for me would be... 72 miles on the boardwalk then relocated to my 2.1 mile trail in eastlake. and skated 35 more miles before getting smashed into. it was fun though and sorry to say the dudes bike got the worst of it. good luck to all doing it today! and to my SD crew, we need to train for the next one too! |
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| sleeveless |
Rodgon, way to go in breaking 100! John, Thane, and I were happy with a quarter at Lake Murray. I think I'm going to skate there on a regular basis. I really got in the groove yesterday. And yes, let's get some serious training going here in San Diego. See ya' on the trails... | ||
| aschmidt |
I did a personal best yesterday- 52 miles in 8.25 hrs. Enjoyed every moment of it.
Few thoughts FWIW: ... gotta figure out how to deal with my toes getting numb on my lead foot, anyone have any ideas? ... would have been nice to have someone to ride with for at least part of the time, any pumpers or pushers in Bakersfield CA ... love, love, love Jelly Belly Sports Beans (especially the Extreme flavor) ... what's up with joe pro cyclists, couldn't tell you how many times I got snubbed ... anxious to ride into the night at Ultraskate VI, when is it James??? Hope everyone else had as great a time as I did!!! -Alan p.s. congrats rodgon! |
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| LD skater since 1971 |
Wow you guy are animals  I got callled in to work this weekend I need the cash right now. So I did mine in stages starting last sunday 16 miles, monday 12 miles, tuesday 12miles, Thursday 5 miles so thats 45 miles total for the week.
Ron broke the 100 mile mark wow your part of the 100 mile ultra skateboarder club.
I am waiting for the north west usa reports maybe some record have been broken. |
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| Barry |
How Do All
Congratulations to everyone for doing whatever it was they did, just being there and skating with some Awsome Friends was more important than all the miles I didn't skate, Thank you
Sorry I did not stay till the end on Saturday but after waking up with a sore throat and thinking I was just dehydrated and not to mention my bail before I even got there on Friday night, I just was not enjoying myself by Saturday afternoon. So the deal is; I was not dehydrated but I have Man Flu which explains the sore throat, banging headache everytime I went dropknee and overall loss of stoke and energy at the time, everyone at work has just had a bad cold and typically mine came out yesterday, I now know how Michelle must have felt,
My knee is now swollen and stiff and my right shoulder is sore too from my bail I will not be skating through Conker debris whilst wearing a heavy backpack again
I look forward to skating with you all again sometime soon, You Guy's Rock. Anyhow here are the few pictures I took from the evening and days event. http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/Knotty.Bear/DorneyUltraskate1011102008# Many apologies in advance if I have anyones names wrong it is hard to remember everyones real names and online AKA's
Oh by the way, I found a glittery, flouorecent green G-string on the living room floor when I got home, if the owner would like to pm me I will re-unite them with the item asap
Take care, Barry
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| Wilder |
Man, James you were cooking yesterday! I didn't get to stay very long but if you kept that pace up I'm sure you racking up the miles.
I stopped by the lake at 6:30 this morning but you guys must'v called it early. There was a lot of cloud cover, aka no moon light. Kinda bummed I didn't get more than 2 measly laps this time, but my knee has really been hurting since last weeks fall. There was a ton of people! And a couple new faces as well. Good to see everyone, Scott and Gareth and all the other skaters. |
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| LD skater since 1971 |
Since I had to work today this was suppose to be my ultra skate I read sleeveless and John Galac had done Lake murray in San Diego. I looked it up and I also seen that lake miramar is paved all the way around and is 4.92 miles around and the dam gates are open now. So after work at the carmel mountain location of pearle vision.
I took a quick spin around the lake miramar did it in 34 minutes it pretty much flat with a couple gradual 100 foot long hills and a few small down hills sections. So I have work off tomorrow so I am going to go out and see how many laps I can do starting in the morning for my ultra skate I am shooting for 6 laps plus. I will post tomorrow. So I am cooking up some pasta right now for carbo loading for some fuel to burn and also so I don't get the ammonia smelling sweat. I have packed a bunch a power aid, power bars and goo and a few gallons of water. What cool about this lake is the parking is right next to the trail so I can travel light and hydrate and eat every 4.92 miles. Here a link to the lake http://www.sandiego.gov/water/recreation/miramar.shtml |
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| samhell |
As Sleeveless stated, we could of easily doubled our mileage.
But Murray lake is very hilly terrain. A super fun place to skate, but the hills really put a rock in our shoes. Next time it will be done somewhere flat. After skating 25.05 miles there, I know I could do at least 50 on flat ground. But we had a great day, and enjoyed the beautiful scenery and had a really nice wide path to skate. Here are a few shots from the day. 
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| LD skater since 1971 |
cool photos !! Who the hell put that sign up? It reminds me of my little quirk. If I don't touch the signal light pole at Via De La Valle in Delmar It does not count as 12 miles in my head.
John at the last pump house race in Poway I was yaking with you while we took photos at the finish line. |
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| pavedwave |
Well it has been awesome waking from a foggy stupor to see so many pushing and making their personal goals, across the globe.
Rodrigo, congrats in order! First, for making the 100-milers and 2nd for surviving a nasty crash! I hope your leg improves quickly. I'm sure a lot of people are taking it easier today, I've done the usual post-ultra Epsom-salt bath, sleep in the afternoon, and general vegging out. Seattle: The 16.5-hour 24-hour ultraskate... The crew from Northwestlongboarding.com made our Greenlake event 'come alive' with a steady stream of riders and supporters day and night. It was great hearing afterward from Subsonic Scott that a lot of people picked up pumping right there on the spot, checking out his Pulse and his new "Century" boards. Scott set up our base camp with his travel van, helped out tremendously, and managed to clock a lot of miles with his kids as well. We had strong wind during the day, and at one point a large memorial procession, people walking slowly across the entire width of the trail, and they weren't moving anytime soon so we were forced to ride gravel or pick up boards and run a few hundred yards to get past -- that lasted about 3 of our laps. Other than that the day was sunny and gorgeous, and mildly crowded, but nothing we couldn't weave through comfortably, with the occasional verbal warning of approach for sleepy pedestrians. However, I can see that the more perfect plan is to stick with Fridays. At 1 a.m. and 165 miles, the rain hit. I was keeping a good pace, so all that was needed was maintaining 10mph to beat Ted's record. But after pushing through this May's rain-soaked ride, I knew what that would entail, a small increase in pain, for starters, and hitting the record wasn't all that important. Pumped another lap to gauge the slippage, then pushed and pumped another lap, finishing around 170 miles, then we chatted briefly and made the call. We just weren't sure when the rain might return, the trail was completely soaked, there was no wind to dry it up fast. The clouds continued to loom, and we had a small group, so it seemed like a good call at the time. We went to Denny's for a 3 a.m. breakfast instead. Our next ride will likely be summer 2009. This 40-degree fall weather is tough on participants, volunteers, and spectators alike. Plus, we have held THREE 24-hour ultraskates this year (the last two on a "global" scale) and a ton of skaters from the NWLB and CSA community have supported us on all of these. So I realize that's a lot of sacrifice to ask especially since it really takes many out for a weekend and a day to recoup. I think the global format suits these events perfectly. I got texts a couple times from Eric in Texas, Nat in the UK, and Richard in New Zealand, just before or after our event. Given our communities are still small, its great being able to share the experience and what we're learning each time, with like-minded people. There are some really cool ideas here from Terry and others on new locations...and I am ready to travel somewhere where it's warmer more than 3 months of the year. It's tricky to find parks that don't have the "dawn to dusk" rules (as the UK/Dorney group found out) Greenlake is officially open 24 hours and it's a relatively safe part of town. So if any new idyllic places like that crop up in SoCal, I may be able to get a ticket some time over the winter as much-needed sunshine therapy. |
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| pavedwave |
perfect album cover
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| skatersjourney |
I'm currently sitting in the university library here in Plymouth with my mind blown by all the cool goings on around the world. I got to meet some amazing people in Dorney over the weekend and re-meet some familiar faces. I'm constantly astounded by the quality of distance skaters here in the UK, and whilst the overnight shut down might have forced some to realign their goals/indeed, depart, we ended up with an event which in my mind was entirely perfect in spirit. Stat-o-licious: I reached my goal of 100 miles on my first Ultraskate. I skated 102 miles in 11 hours 38 mins, at an average speed of 8.7 mph. In fact, after the night break, I went up by a mile an hour thanks to the iPod and the company I was in. Whilst I had another board with me (dubbed the evil Mermaid! rave reviews!), I felt that it was unwise to change the game plan completely with such a short preparation time. So I pushed regular the whole way. I didn't feel tired at the end, just elated, I could have gone on further, but it seemed fitting to finish the lap and all head home happy. I was surrounded by support, some people who I'd seen through their 100 early in the day, others who just skated a few laps and wanted to leap around in the dark with me to share my joy. I enjoyed the event enormously - I have found the access key to a higher state of happiness! Addiction is such a harsh word...how about compulsion...or need...oh, they all have the same end... Before the next Ultra, I think we've got some challenge/race format style events planned, to give us enough time to sweet talk Dorney management into hosting an event proper. The conditions this time were perfect, and on that basis alone, I am going to name Dorney one of, if not THE, premier distance longboarding event locations. I'm sure it would rule even if wasn't clement outside! I really hope everyone got what they wanted out of the Ultra this time around, and I hope to learn of many more dreams coming true. Thank you to everyone who helped me get where I needed to go, and where I'm going to go next! Expect pumping to take a much larger role! Here's my pics: http://www.facebook.com/album.php...4251&l=bc945&id=776045581 |
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| pavedwave |
Congratulations Laura!!! The world's first female 100+ mile ultraskater!!
Great shots, and what an amazing tribe over there. You could be right about Dorney being the premier location. With the right weather and wind conditions, it may well factor into some vacation plans in an upcoming year! |
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| skatersjourney |
Really? Oh my gosh! How did the girls do over there? Wish them all the best from me!
I believe a fine roast dinner is called for. |
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| Barefoot Ted |
Congrast to allHowdy FolksI happily sat out Ultraskate V. It was more fun watching it from my computer screen. Very happy to hear about the 100 mile ride by Laura. Sounds like weather got in the way of the Seattle crew. I think I will remain semi-retired until a few more of you push this edge of the envelop of what is possible and inspire more to join the ranks of long distance pumpers. I have my eyes open to find the perfect new location for a 24 hour LDP ride here in Los Angeles. Best to All, Barefoot Ted |
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| Barry |
Congratulations Laura on your 100 mile ride I am so exited for you, just very sorry that I was not feeling the stoke enough to stay till the bitter end and congratulate you in person.
Superb pictures too, nice to see a picture of me for once
Congratulations to anyone I did not cangratulate the firts time round too, you all rock and I will include myself in that statement also, "We All Rock" I fell a long way short of my goal and only accomplished 63 and a bit miles, but I am blaming a security gaurd, a cool crash from my board before even reaching Dorney and a cold that I thought was dehydration for that I would not have missed it for the world.
Take care, Barry
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| LD skater since 1971 |
Wow congratulations to Laura on breaking the 100 mile mark!!!
Well I got up early and they said the Santa ana winds will hit and the temperature would hit 85 degrees inland valleys where Miramesa lake is located. I met my goal of 6 laps around the 4.92 mile lake so I ended up with 29.52 miles. I felt good and I was even think of pushing it up past my goal on the beginning of the 6th lap.I started a 7:50 a.m. and end it at 11:37 a.m. I was on tear because it's a fun fast lake to ride around. But the heat was getting me towards the end of the last lap I was starting to feel lethargic so I knew I need to stop or have a heat stroke. That the problem of inland skateboarding and hiking the heat will get you here in southern california. I also basically hit the proverbial wall that marathoners hit. The road inclines a little bit toward the lake for run off. But were the road ends their is what I named Oceanside wave close out section for about 50 feet.It inclined even more you have a canopy of trees that look like wave that is going to close out on you so you can carve a bank like your surfing as fast as you can to make the section of the pretend wave. I forgot I was also naming different turns and corners after formula one drivers. I know I am a nut? I was even using the santa ana wind to my advantage across the dam I would weave wide on the road towards the water and let my body act like a sail to tack across the dam road and then swing back across the road towards the water and repeat. I am glad I did this when I use to run quite a bit in my younger years I always want to run a marathon now I kind of know what it is like. What was cool my support vehicle was only 4 feet off the trail I would drink 16 oz of power aid or water after each lap and part of a power bar every few laps. I did the power bar thing because I was going in to waters uncharted by me personally after lap 3. Plus I feel I proved a doctor wrong that told me when I was 38 years old I had the body of 60 year old and wanted to fuse my left ankle back then I got up and left the office. I will be 47 years old next month I am glad I did not have my ankle fused or I would not even be on this board ride now. James Miramar lake opens at sun up and close at 7:00 p.m.. Barefoot Ted you always have the Dogtown/ Santa Monica board walk it a long haul. Or Orange county has a few bike trails also a real long costal boardwalk from Huntington beach to corona delmar. You might check out silverlake I think it paved all the way around. Go to Cal state dominguez hill and ride the olympic velodrome. But Orange county has the most red lines http://www.efgh.com/bike/redrouteorange.htm |
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| A.G. |
Congrads Laura (The first Ultra Sister). Wow James your not alone anymore so many people, so many places. Congrads to all who skated and James the father of The Ultra 24hr Skate. | ||
| edp_swakakin |
Laura you freaking rule!!!! | ||
| skatersjourney |
No...you guys freaking rule!
Thank you for your nice comments everyone. I am stoked as hell to push through that 100 mile barrier. I went out for a skate yesterday and my pushing leg felt invincible! Fully recovered after 2 days - that's about the same as it took when I skated my previous highest daily total of 32 miles. Perhaps when I kick off a long distance journey, giving it everything at these kinds of events will set me in good stead. We've got some lively discussions going on at the Skate Further forum on how to make Dorney an official event next time! Big love to all - thank you so much, Eric, A.G, LD, Barry, Ted, and el Hombre...James. |
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| rodgon |
ok so after resting and feeling better i thought id take some time to recall my ultraskate experience.
My day started off at 8am here in beautiful San Diego, woke up and got my stuff ready to go, Ipod, WaterBottle, and some tiger bars. took my skate tool, some extra bushings and head out the door. I got to mission beach at about 9:45 and stretched getting ready to embark once again on my pumping journey, very happy and very pumped up to get to it. i knew that this time i had to pace myself as last time i was completely dead and wheezing after 9 hours. anyways, i put on my ipod, tuned to some techno music and started off. here i go!!!! First lap i took i took it easy and realized that the wind was kinda heavy but nothing to worry about, i was still going at a steady 13mph pace and a little faster going back since i had the wind helping me. Went on for a couple laps and at 6 miles in Mister Skogg himself Chris Yandall joined me. Yandall and me went on skating for a good 20 miles together ( so 26miles for me) when he ahd to go back home to work, the man is fast... pushing and just flying as he went, carving like crazy but no pumping for him... hahaha, still fun to skate with though, peoples reactions to both of us were priceless. after he left i again had to jump on a steady pace and keep on track. 35 miles down i decided i needed a little more food than just tiger bars so i stopped for a quick bite in a store thats on the boardwalk, got a sandwhich and ate it up fast and head on out again. i switched to my pushing deck at mile 52 since my toe was annoying me and i thought i should give it a little rest, it proved to be a very good choice since wind picked up and it would have been alot harder to pump with that type of wind. specially since my core was feeling the hours of skating. it was about 5 in the afternoon when i switched. about mile 56 my friend jerry came to join me and took my pumping board since i wasnt using it, her went and rode with me for about 3 miles, looked at me like i was crazy and went home wishing me goodluck. his pressence kinda gave me a second wind though and i was once again re energized and went on. when i got to mile 68ish, my girlfriend made her way out to mission beach to see how i was doing, i was about ready to go to my night trail in Eastlake, so we went for one more lap and then at 72 miles we took off for Eastlake. I was not even feeling the ride all that much except for my little toe on my leading pumping foot. ( might have to find a way to reinforce that area of my foot ...shoe.. ) we got back to my house and i head out to my trail. this trail is awesome and a good way to get some mileage in, its a very easy slope for about 1.6 miles. you can carve, pump, and do anything you want during 1.4 miles, then a very steep hill which you can bomb or carve down, then you just have to push up .3 miles ( 2 minutes ) and you can do it again. all residential area, no people or cars really at night, and no wind! i love this trail ^_^. So going on my 15th time riding the loop and feeling really good about my mileage, i was going down the trail, ( i have lights and reflector vest on by the way) i get to the part where there is the steep hill, i start bombing it and notice a small shadow, bad thing for me and him was that it was a bicycle rider going fast uphill, i was longboarder going very fast downhill ( 25mph) and when i went to carve around him ( after realizing what the shadow was) he moved in the same direction... i went to avoid him by changing direction again and he does the same!!! so next thing i know i brace myself and crash into him at full force. 200 pounds... going 25mph with him going a good 10mph... im not a mathematician but thats alot of force... i end up knocking him off his bike, and my board totally wrecks his front wheel and chain, i end up with the dude as my cushion, and my board intact! only thing is i pulled the back of my thigh and gouged my knee with the spokes of his bike and road rash the same area. i got up made sure he was ok then told him he was a moron and he needs lights... he agreed and we went our different ways. so with that i stopped since it was a very bothersome pain in my back right thigh. checked my GPS and i was happy to see it said with the 35 extra miles that i was at 107. decided to rest and past out the moment i touched my pillow. ^_^ at 1am. |
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| pavedwave |
Rodgon, Terry -- awesome accounts of your rides!
You get the Defensive Tackle Award Rodrigo!!! Just hope you haven't been paying for that these last few days, which is when you really find out how bad a whack you took. What are those bikers doing on our trails anyway?? Sounds like an awesome plan you had though -- long trails during the day, and a (theoretically safe) loop track at night. I think that formula is pretty much the perfect way to go. And I'm glad you guys are scoping the trails... we need a 24-hour SoCal loop! And Ted, I appreciated your call at the halfway mark of my ride. I was up to your challenge to pull you from retirement, but Seattle had other plans. Which is why I might just do another one of these over the WINTER 
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| Winnersh |
A little UK write up by Laura. Enjoy.
http://www.skatefurther.com/2008/ultraskate-v-dorney-lake |
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| pavedwave |
Link's on the front page now! Great write up by Laura. | ||
| skatersjourney |
I thank you! Great to remember it all
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