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sk8m8
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Too Many trucks - which is the best set up.Hi There
Living in NZ it's really hard to source an LDP board let alone the trucks. I have managed to source a LBL Walkabout & I am still looking at getting a Mermaid but trucks are a little more confusing since I have never had an LDP set up. I came across an Australian website & although they do not carry any LDP boards they have too many trucks to choose from. They have Trackers, Bennents, Skennets, Skandals, Airflows & Radikals. I heard the airflows are great back trucks & they should be for the price. Are they alot different from the tracker RTS 129s, is the extra money worth it? I also heard radikals are a good front & rear truck too.
http://www.hopkin.com.au/trucks-c-257.html
My question is if money wasn't an issue what would be the best truck set up from the trucks on the above site. Keeping in mind that I want the most efficient LDP set up possible. I intend to get truck set ups for two boards so I require 2 front trucks & 2 back trucks.
Any suggestions would help greatly.
Thanks.
D.
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mrgumdropman
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your trucksthe airflow is definitely one of the better trucks for lDP but a Bennett front and tracker Rt-s or seismic rear would still work well. You are also going to want a wedge kit
Bennett-4.3 tracker rt-s 106, seismic stable 105mm
Bennett-5.0 tracker rts 126, seismic stable 130mm
Bennett-6.0 tracker rts 150, seismic stable 150mm
thats a table of how all the truck match up
remember wedging is key Bennett wedging is usually around 15*
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Bullwings
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The Bennetts are definitely the best front truck for LDP that i've tried so far.
I like the 5.0s, they're the best compromise between stability, ease of pump, and ability to maintain clipping speed.
The 6.0s are stable and great at higher speeds, but require a bit more energy to pump. They are nice and carvy/surfy though, if you're looking to do a little bit more than just LDP.
The 4.3s were just too narrow for me. While they were super easy to pump, they just felt to tippy and unstable for me. I couldn't get used to it.
As far as rear trucks are concerned, i started off with the Tracker RT-S, then moved on to a seismic stable turn (30 degree). You really need to dial in the springs though, just as you would bushings on regular trucks.
Haven't tried any precision trucks (airflows, split fires, radikals), they're too expensive for me to use on an LDP non-competition setup.
Skennetts and Skandals are trucks more for slalom competition. They're cut down and super narrow (modded Bennett 4.3 and Randal 125s). For LDP, i don't think you should go any narrower than the Bennett 4.3.
Goodluck and happy hunting.
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sk8m8
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Thanks guys, think I'll go with Bennet 5.0s for the front. I'm still a bit confused about the rear truck though. I know some run the Bennet 5.0s with the RTS 139s some prefer the 129s but I'm thinking airflows as that's what JP recommends. Can anyone tell me the major difference between these trucks. Why are the airflows considered better than the 129s other than they are expensive. What is the difference in feel between the 129s & the 139s. Yeah got Khiro wedges & Khiro bushing set. It's just the trucks I'm having trouble with. Decisions, decisions!!
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pavedwave
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the time that defined what splitfires and airflows were doing to me, was several years ago up on a slalom hill. i had been hitting this one big offset, reaching out to make it around a particular cone, and getting a good deal of sliding / chirping off the rear. one time, I slid out and had to bail even.
then on the same day, same deck, same wheels, I wrenched a little while, replacing the tracker RTS with a Splitfire and hit the same course, minutes later. I stuck that difficult corner every single time after that. so the difference in grip was pretty immediate and obvious to me.
now for LDP, which is typically long, flat, open, and about half or more the speed of downhill slalom, i've often thought it may be not nearly as critical or crucial to have as "sticky" a rear truck. but on the other hand, I can't see where it would hurt. and since I already had these trucks for slalom, it's always been easy for me to switch them back and forth between the two.
however, I can totally see how spending $100 more just to have a subtle improvement in long distance pumping setup, as opposed to slalom racing against a timer setup, would not be a priority for most. which is why I had been seeking alternatives to the tracker RTS, and started testing out the seismic rear once again. and I continue to ride the seismic rear, because I want to see if I can ever make it fail.
in general i think the bennett 5.0 and RTS 129 (with high performance bushings) or seismic 130 (with the right springs for your weight) are the best overall setup. i ride a 4.3 front often only because 30 minutes of my daily commute is all a really slow gradual uphill, so having that "smaller gear" helps. but just out cruising about, the 5.0's the all-around ticket IMO.
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stocago
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I haven't had the good fortune to try a precision rear truck yet, but I can attest that the Seismic Stable-Turn 30 sticks considerably better than the Tracker RT-S, even with less dewedging. Seismic really is the poor man's precision truck. That said, the Tracker is a fine truck. It's also quieter and more comfortable than the Seismic. There isn't much difference between the 129 and 139, but many say the 139 feels surfier. I'd try to match it closely to the front truck or slightly narrower.
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sk8m8
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Thanks guys ...the bennet 5.0 & the RTS 129 seems the way to go.
Thanks for the help
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