Question on Seismic springs

stocago · Question on Seismic springs

I'm thinking about trying a Seismic Stable-Turn 30 as a rear truck and was wondering how much of a difference there is between each spring strength. For example, can the stock yellow be made as stiff as the red on its softest setting? If so, I'd be better off getting the medium green, which is two steps up in stiffness. I weigh 150 pounds and am guessing that the yellow will be a bit soft.

LD skater since 1971

I would run a 45 degree truck base plates all the way around.
I weigh 190lbs and I run yellow on the back for stability and bone white for Flatland LDP or the light green a step above for a little bit more stability.

pavedwave

Stocago, you might want to engage Gesmer on the phone or email at some point, letting him know your current preferences with your current setup. After tinkering with reds and yellows years ago, I called him up and based on my relatively stiff preferences on bushings with regular trucks, he recommended the Greens, which are one step up from Reds.

The Greens do feel closer to what I'm used to, I've been out on 3-mile laps with them so far and today I'm taking them for a 30-miler, to really see how it feels overall. I'm still curious how the Reds might feel tightened up. From past experience the yellows were too loose for my prefs (I'm 165lbs)

Terry sounds like you like to run the rears a lot more loose in general, given you're talking about the light green in the back at 190lbs. And interesting on the 45's front and back! Would really like to see that in action. Maybe a video in the future?

Btw, here's the spring chart in summary:

Max Light White - http://3dm-sport.stores.yahoo.net/spng-ml.html
Super Light Bright Green - http://3dm-sport.stores.yahoo.net/spng-sl.html
Extra Light Yellow - http://3dm-sport.stores.yahoo.net/spng-el.html
Light Red - http://3dm-sport.stores.yahoo.net/spng-l.html
Medium Green - http://3dm-sport.stores.yahoo.net/spng-m.html
Heavy Purple - http://3dm-sport.stores.yahoo.net/spng-h.html
Blue Extra Heavy - http://3dm-sport.stores.yahoo.net/spng-eh.html
Black Super Heavy - http://3dm-sport.stores.yahoo.net/spng-sh.html

LD skater since 1971

I run yellow on the back and light green on the front or Bone white.
But I have always preferred a looser truck than most people.
If you can afford to do it get a couple different springs in your range and below and see what you like.
I got the idea for both 45 degree plates from the seismic site for tight slalom use.

Bullwings

I'm about 145 lbs or so, and I use the light green springs for my 30 degree rear truck. I haven't tried the yellows (I have some), but I put the light green ones in first, and they felt great, so i haven't bothered trying to put the stiffer springs in.

stocago

Thanks to all for the input. I will go with the stock yellow for now and test it out. Then I will decide if I need to make a change.

Hanael

Got mine with medium green springs..

too light for my preference lol.
gotta change it later on.

pavedwave

I have three different sets of green springs from the past and present, two of them are different shades but seem like the same "thick" spring as fits the "Medium" setting on Gesmer's chart, while the other one is obviously lighter both in color and in thickness.

My assumption is that the two thick ones are identical in terms of response, just there was some difference in the color mix at some point in history...

Hanael

OH!

they have different green springs.
On the older set i have, it's the thicker green, but on my current truck, it's the light green.

stocago

I was reading about switching springs on the Seismic site and it seems like it is easy to bend or damage the safety clip when removing the springs, which is why, I guess, that they include an extra clip with the spring kits. Is this what most people are finding, or is it just a precaution?

LD skater since 1971

Their not easy to damage but when you take them off they fly off.
Are hard to find but a bent clip can be straitened all they are are "C" clips. I bought some extra one just in case.
Also the make sure to tighten the king pin all the way down then remove the clip.
Then when you mount the hanger again tighten the king pin down then slip on the clip. Hold your finger on the clip and back the out the king pin slightly to hold the clip in place. I found this out the hard way when I came back from a ride I had no clip on one truck.
The clips keeps the king pin from backing it self out because of the tight tolerance of the way the truck is manufactured.
It tends to back out the king pin.

Bullwings

Juan M

i'm testing as rear truck the 105 stable with purple springs 3.5 clicks preload and 5 degrees de-wedged on my Roe mermaid. So far pretty good and i tend to believe better than airflows, to have a better apreciation i need more riding time.

I tried seismic 45 on front but i couldn't get used to its motion.

stocago

Please follow up with a report after you're done testing! I've put some time on my Stable-Turn 130 and I'm wondering about trying the 105 as well. Has anyone compared both on the same deck--like a Mermaid?

pavedwave

stocago

I'm finding that I can't climb the longer, steeper inclines with the Seismic like I can with the Tracker RTS. Since I'm in Florida it's not that big of a deal. For more gentle grades and on the flats I really am liking the action of the Seismic. It really sticks and seems a lot more stable on downhills. The only other negative is that it can be noisy on rougher surfaces, even with soft risers. Since most of my pavement is rather good, it's not an issue.

Update 10/02: Funny, but I ended up tuning my front Bennett with a softer top bushing and it made all the difference. Don't know why I didn't think of it before. It's just weird that I could climb just fine with the Tracker in back.

egret · What wheels?

I just got a 30 degree 105 mm width for a rear truck for my Galac. I have 2 problems and advice would be appreciated. First, insane wheel bite with the green springs. Second, my BigZigs rub on the inside on the little spurs. I had to stack speedrings just to allow the wheels to turn. It looks like I could dremmel the spurs off easy enough but should I? What kind of wheel should be used?

stocago

I had the same rubbing problem with Superballs, but like you I added an additional speedring that gave me the necessary clearance. As far as the wheelbite, you might need stiffer springs, but I'd start out with more riser.

egret

thanks, stocago. actually I filed away at the spurs until the wheels spun. Didn't have to take too much off, actually.

I changed to black springs and wheelbite stopped but I'm not totally easy with that. I know risers are the most prudent course to take but then I have to lift the front too. It's pumping nice now. I'd like to try it higher to see the difference but such a pain. I hope I don't eat my words and pavement.

Belegnole

Hey all you Seismic users. ! I am finally going to get a LDP setup going this spring....or whenever the board gets made. But first I am going to start collecting all the other bits an pieces. For a rear truck I have been thinking that I will get a Seismic ....but I have no clue as to what springs to get. As of a moment ago my scale says I weigh in at 190lbs. That is more than I see most of you posting so I turn to those who have more experience than I with Seismics. What springs do you suggest that I start with? I know I will end up playing and might like stronger or softer..but hey I need a place to start....I thought maybe the purple? Thanks, Dave

stocago

Purple (heavy) might be a good place to start. Have you gone to the Seismic site and clicked on the super-specific recommendations? http://www.seismicskate.com/tech_...0Color-Coded%20Spring%20Strengths
It looks like medium, heavy and extra-heavy would all work. It just comes down to personal preference. I weigh 155 pounds and started out with extra-light, then went to light and now I'm preferring the medium springs. Two friends that I LDP with are in your weight range and they are liking the medium as well.

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What wheels?