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| timbo666 |
Overnight LDP with a big backpack.........?Has anyone done a long, LDP - as in with a tent and a big pack? Is it difficult to pump with a big pack? |
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| pavedwave |
Check out this thread
http://pavedwave.myfastforum.org/about81.html The most I usually pump with is a Camelbak. Even when its full of water I consider too risky to my lower back. For what you're thinking of I'd go with as much of the super lightweight high tech stuff (tent and sleeping bag, basically) as possible, and expect to pick up any heavier food items nearer the overnight destinations. On the full-day excursions, I typically carry two water bottles, one in each hand -- which frees up the small backpack for energy food and light necessities. In the end, if I were to have to pack more than somewhere around 15-20lbs, I would just plan on pushing a lot more, especially gradual inclines. |
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| LDPanda |
This isnt a very helpful reply but maybe someone else will have more info on this. I remember seeing a guy with a skate trailer atached to his board. He was a pusher of course, but i imagine it could work for a pumper too. It had a pivoting bracket and atached to the back of his board to carry extra stuff for his trip across south america (i think, just vague recollection).
Edit: Bah, i found it : http://pavedwave.myfastforum.org/about272.html Rob Thompson = beast. As for heavy backpacks, i wouldnt advise it. Even my little camelpak with 1.5L water and tools/bushings/washers/etc. weighs down pretty heavy after a few miles. When ive loaded it down with food, its even thrown off my balance once or twice and caused some near falls. If youre planning on a full day (or longer) unsupported journey, i would highly suggest spreading the weight around your body and keeping it as low as possible. |
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| pavedwave |
Yeah Rob did the trip around the world, much of it with that trailer fashioned from his rollsrolls deck. We yakked a bit online about it when he was asking about pumping... I think he was over in China at the time! The trailer would definitely add some flavor to the ride, would be interesting to see how it worked out.
I also am planning to "go low" in next year's STP ride -- putting more stuff in the lower pockets of my cargo shorts, and yes, probably a "fanny pack." The first two years of the STP I wore two pouches like that and NO backpack at all. It actually works really well, and these days there are a lot more options for waist pouches that both hold water bottles and have huge pockets for storage. Distribution is definitely a good thing, just try not to go overboard... 
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| timbo666 |
Thanks for the replies all.
I don't see a trailer working very well with pumping as the trailer might sway left and right? pushing is much more constant and no swaying left to right. I'm definately planning the commute to work and I might try out a more figure hugging backpack. With backpack, I can't ride anything without a waist-strap and i find a chest strap helps too. This is the case whether it's bike riding, skiing or skating. The overnight trip might have to be done on my Dervish then. I've done a few good length trips on it with a pack before. TP |
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| wafflesole |
Hobo longboarding!!
http://skatefurther.skatefurther.net/hobo-longboarding/ Ben has been talking about the possibility of ldp with trailer, it's an interesting one that i'd like to see investigated. I wonder if the trailer would end up pushing you along a bit? |
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| skatersjourney |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVVPGjbXsbg
Sorry to put such a trivial vid in ...but I would sort of fear this happening! |
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| pavedwave |
Not trivial at all, I think you're spot on with that vid... this could easily be an issue on hills! I recall Rob blogging something about never going much more than 30-35mph, using foot and windbraking to slow down. I also wonder about the effect of drag this might have when pumping, trying to pull the extra weight along. Derek and I used to pump 60" Flexdexes and when it came to even slight inclines, it made a big difference to dump that extra couple feet of board. Here's an idea that might work on a topmount-- a few holes in the back and strap a (light) pack on?? 
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| wafflesole |
i'm sure there was a trip last year with guys on dancers doing something similar; luggage on back.
i think they lasted about 6 hours before both took quite serious falls. not sure how the hammock motion would affect the rear. |
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| skatersjourney |
Skate Across Utah - poor guys used Larry dancers with their kit strapped to the back. I've never seen such road rash. What started as a good idea turned into a nasty nightmare. Bad times... | ||||
| pavedwave |
Yeah there's no way I would go heavy with anything strapped on the board... it would have to be only sleeping bag and tent at the most, that uber-lightweight stuff!! | ||||
| timbo666 |
Well firstly, there is an obvious massive difference with LDP and LDP. Long distance pumping and long distance pushing. Pushing with a pack i know is ok, and a trailer might be ok. If you're looking to pump with a big pack im guessing you might not be able to control the turns and either slide out, fall off or slide out-grip-and get high sided. a trailer when pumping could go really wrong also.
a real shame i'd say. i guess the other way to do it is to plan really well and everything to go smoothly, i.e. stay in planned hostels and hotels and just carry a little food and water. and plenty of cash! |
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| pavedwave |
Haha, I love it. That's why I called it LDP before LDP came along. What were we talking about?? 
This is pretty much a snapshot of how I'd plan an LDP across America (meaning PUMP) without any car assistance -- 1. camelbak with some pure water in its pouch as "backup", though never full per too much weight 2. camelbak pouch holds minimal tools and skate parts, first aid and communication stuff 3. waist pouch holds food for the day and possibly a click-on fluid bottle 4. hands hold a fluid bottle - this one you could mix more stuff like flavored electrolytes, keeping the camelbak always just pure water 5. tent, sleeping bag, clean underwear and change of clothes go either on the board, or strapped on the back of camelbak 6. stops at hostels/hotels/grocery/laundry as needed, maybe every other day or several days....depending how long one can stand themselves!! I would love to do this some day...just need a big block of time. |
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| timbo666 |
On second thought, this could work?!?!?! Maybe something small between the feet? it would make it more difficult to ride, but if you had it distributed middle and back, it might be better for weight movement? |
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| wafflesole |
i was just thinking that. in between the feet would be where the weight should be. You would have to experiment with weight and bushings though. more weight = harder front bushings?
Would the roads to cross the US be ok? I've seen lots of footage and it looks like the highways have a bit more of a hard shoulder than here in the uk or in NZ. |
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| pavedwave |
I'd go nose and tail, but would want to keep the middle for myself. Having to straddle something would just be too distracting, personally. And if I wanted more weight in the middle, I'd just eat more donuts on the ride. | ||||
| timbo666 |
The only trouble with this is that your foot would be right at the front! |
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| robotopdx |
I have thought of doing just that for a trip. With a pack on the front out past the front truck and on the back past the rear truck. I don't see why this would not work well. I need to try it with my aluminum board since it can take the stress and has handy mounting holes already. |
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| Winnersh |
another solution: learn bushcraft so that you can build a shelter thereby neagting the need for a sleeping bag and tent. | ||||