barefootboarder
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Carver CX bushing upgrade for LDP??!Hello everyone.
I have a question about Carver CX trucks - and the standard Carver bushings. Mine are working great but I have a new Khiro bushings kit and I was wondering if there are any possible improvements I can make for LDP, by changing the standard Carver bushings for something else.
They are great as they are, but any extra pump speed is always welcome!
Thanks!
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Mimosa
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Carver CX bushings has always been a problem for me because every combination was chewed rapidly. I tried various Khiro duros (white, orange, blue) and nothing resists more than a couple of runs. Recently I tried the red Paris which are rather hard, almost the same duro as the original carvers. They lasted about 2 hours. Then I tried red Holeys : conical on top with the stock carver washer and hourglass on bottom without any washer directly on the base plate. Well this was several months ago and it lasts. Although I don't ride this board every day, this is by far the best bushing combination I've tried for this truck. The hourglass height seems perfect as I don't dig the pivot cup anymore. It also hads rebound that is missing with the original bushings.
I believe in Holey hourglass on various trucks. I know that they are used on Bennetts. I currently use the grey ones on Paris 180 (also directly on the base plate) and it's a huge improvement.
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barefootboarder
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Thanks Mimosa! Merci beaucoup! That is a really helpful reply.
I don't yet have problems with bushings wearing out (maybe I need to PUMP HARDER  ), but I just want better performance. In any case I'll try your suggestion tomorrow when I go out for my regular pumping session.
Thanks again!
I'll post up my impressions.
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barefootboarder
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OK I've got the Holey Ruby Reds on my front CX truck. Good. Can't wait for daybreak so I can take it out for a ride.
But the Holeys won't go on the rear truck because of the cup recess in the base plate.
Mimosa did you mean to put the Holey bushings only in the front truck? Should I leave the rear truck with the stock Carver bushings?
Thanks again for your help.
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Mimosa
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Sorry that my previous message was not clear. You are right. I only replaced the front bushings. The back ones are still the stocks from Carver.
I hope you don't have too much rain in England. Here, in Lille, it's a disaster today.
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barefootboarder
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Sorry about your weather! I hope it's not heading our way, we're preparing for a 15 mile charity skate on Saturday (I'll be pumping on my CX set-up - now with Holey bushings! ) - so please, let the sun shine!
Mimosa many thanks.
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Mimosa
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Then I wish you a happy trip and please let us know what you think about these bushings at the end of the 15 miles.
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barefootboarder
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Sorry for the late response!
A happy trip indeed, for me and the other 200.
15 miles seemed no problem. The carver trucks are really great. ...and now I know that Mr Holey's wonderful bushings work so well in them, there are all kinds of possibilities for tuning. Thanks again Mimosa. The 15 miles were a breeze. I felt so relaxed, I rode in a skirt.
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pavedwave
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this is awesome feedback-- i haven't been riding CX's for quite a while, but have been trying CX red bushing as a top bushing in my Bennett, and holey bushings in Bennetts as well. i'll definitely try holeys in the Carver now.
congrats on the ride BFBoarder -- cool to hear so many stoked on the distance scene over there
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barefootboarder
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Here's a little clip of the Carver CXs on a flat cycle track along by the river. I love these trucks!
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Mimosa
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Deck ?Hi Barefootboarder,
Congratulations for the 15 miles. I'm glad that it worked so well with the Holeys. You posted a nice video ! What is your deck ? It makes me feel like I want to retry the carvers with a longboard. At the present time, I'm riding the carvers with a bahne rocker short deck.
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Mimosa
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I forgot to write about the video : Great style !
This cycling track by the river looks like a dream for LDP. Is it long ?
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barefootboarder
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Not long enough! Just 2 miles, what's that - 3 km. I go back and forth and back and forth. The deck is a Sector 9 Surfcamp. I think it's pretty much the same as the Uluwatu. I'd like to try the Carvers on a shorter deck one day, but for now it's working out pretty well on the big board. I'm very happy with the Zigzag wheels too.
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Mimosa
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Carver CX revival ?Hi Barefootboarder,
As a consequence of your feedback and video I moved my Carvers from the Bahne rocker to a Lush Mako deck to give them one more chance with a longboard. To be honest, I was not expecting such a great surprise. As I posted before ( see the "Carver Cx stance" topic ), I was quite disapointed by these trucks for LDP. This was mainlly due to the bushings problem. The stocks bushings were quite strong but too hard and the hangar lacked the return to center effect. And soft Khiros were chewed up in few kilometers. Moreover, they didn't realy fit, which had an incidence on the ride. I was fed up with these trucks because I started to spend more and more money on bushings and the result was not good. As I said in a previous message, when I tried the Holey bushings, the carvers were mounted on a short Bahne deck I only used as a travelling board or for commuting. The wheel base was too short for LDP.
Then I tried a 24 km ride with the lush Mako this morning and it was night and day comparing to my previous experiences. Pumping was very easy. The set up was very responsive, which was not the case before. I spent most of the 24 miles across the belgian border pumping even facing the wind. I had to pump carefully on the way back because the road was wet. It was good to test the ability of these trucks to hold a 10km/h speed. Of course the ride is rather high (1 inch riser with 75mm Avilas) but you feel so good that you don't want to go down. I will test them further and if the red Holey bushings last, I think that the Cx are definately a good choice. Many thanks to you Barefootborder for the feedback.
By the way, my Mako is growing old and I plan to get another deck, maybe not a LDP special because of the delay. I'd like something with the correct wheelbase, rather wide especially around the nose. I was thinking about Gravity spoon nose or Arbor Bamboo Blunt. Any comments or orther ideas ?
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Parson Adams
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I love my Spoon Nose for LDP. I was thinking of getting a Walkabout for a backup or second board, but I have decided against this and will go the cheaper and faster route and just buy a new Spoon nose from Gravity. You won't be disappointed. A plus side is its tail, too. I have had to use it many times while surfing side walks in San Antonio. The tail makes it easy to curb hop and acid drop off of high curbs. It also helps with the cracked road surfaces and such as well. Plus, its a great cruiser for those non-pump bank ripping sessions.
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barefootboarder
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Hello again Mimosa! I'm very happy that you had such a 'night and day' experience with your Mako and the CX trucks. Stoked! The Mako is a fantastic board as an all-rounder, I have one still on the original Holeys and the original Ruby red bushings which I just love. It's so great to hear that you like the CX trucks on your Mako. It's brilliant that the missing ingredient is the magic Holey bushings. I think Holey trucks are gorgeous - to look at and to ride, and I'm glad to see that the Holey bushings are so worthwhile and versatile too. It's all good. Holeys bushing in CX trucks is obviously a 'very good thing'. Holeys in Bennets might be another good thing. The Carver CX on a long deck is a lot of fun isn't it?
Actually I got so curious about the Carver designs I bought a set of C7s on one of Carvers own boards last week. Completely an impulse buy and I can't wait to take it out to see what sort of speed I can get out of it... and it's been raining here ever since. 
I'll let you know how it goes. I expect it'll be slower than the CX but maybe even more fun. Stock bushings at first!
As for replacing your Mako, I don't really know the boards you mention... I'd just get another Mako! hee hee!
PS Well there's been a short break in the rainstorms and I've been out on the C7s. No surprise that it's hard to get any real speed on them, but it's really fun to cruise around because they're so turny, and to be able to pump away from a standing start. I love that!
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Arjen
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What about bitch bushings? They look alot like the stock ones as for the shape.
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